The Juggling Edge - Do you have a v i s i o n or do you wait and see where juggling gets you,…

7b_wizard - 2015-08-11 11:34:42 UTC #

Do you have a v i s i o n or do you wait and see where juggling gets you, or do you not think about where it might lead to at all?

I have one strong vision.
I have a fuzzy / multiple sort of vision.
I am curious to see where it will get me (wanting or pushing nothing in particular).
I have distinct plans on learning and wanting distinct (but changing) patterns or skills.
I want to see whatever improvement above everything else.
I don't care "where my juggling leads". Fun-time, the doing is all that matters.
none / all / mixture of the above (it - what will become of it - is an issue, though).
other. / doesn't apply. / "I hate such polls". / bad choice of choices.

Thk 4 voting :o)

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7b_wizard - 2015-08-22 23:50:07 UTC - Parent #

Last weekend for this poll before closing & results ... wanna vote? :o)

Marvin - 2015-08-24 07:00:47 UTC - Parent #

This poll has now ended. The results are:

I have one strong vision. (2 votes)
I have a fuzzy / multiple sort of vision. (1 vote)
I am curious to see where it will get me (wanting or pushing nothing in particular). (0 votes)
I have distinct plans on learning and wanting distinct (but changing) patterns or skills. (4 votes)
I want to see whatever improvement above everything else. (2 votes)
I don't care "where my juggling leads". Fun-time, the doing is all that matters. (4 votes)
none / all / mixture of the above (it - what will become of it - is an issue, though). (2 votes)
other. / doesn't apply. / "I hate such polls". / bad choice of choices. (1 vote)

7b_wizard - 2015-08-24 12:57:22 UTC - Parent #

Hey! .. rather many votes again :o]) Thanks! Thanks to Marvin for sorting out the results!

My "one strong vision" is a dim and distant (but my vision of one day doing it myself is strong) more imagined than remembered black & white tv numbers ball-juggling in a manege .. I wouldn't even recognize it with today's eyes.
That vision got an `upgrade´ and refreshing years ago in that here https://www.youtube.com/v/Jp335OQpxaQ [Hiram Meza Pastor (Chile), "Juggling in Cagliari"] my vision of playful Seven Balls is pretty much reflected .. a five ball video mainly, but he does 7 balls at 1:32, 5 up 360°; cascade at 3:09; bounced against a wall (8 balls even?) at 3:40; (8x,6x) (? i think) and another 5 up 360° at 4:23, .. but it's not the tricks andor their difficulty mainly, that bewitched me, (and I might even have misconceived the video e.g. a turning-drift with "gee, he's even walking with the pattern", or e.g. saw more balls, or e.g. wasn't aware of possible fails outside the vid or..or not aware of even more difficult tricks being possible), but [ .. bewitched by .. ] the lightness and playfulness in mastering such a puzzling number of balls simply flying `all around the place´.

I am a bit surprised that only so few people have any longtime far-aim, or only would be curious to see how far or in which direction (/sub) they will get, or wanting to reach a distinct skill or pattern or level. .. Well, .. some do have (changing) part-time goals (maybe long-term in case), just not the (distinct) "one and only all-time" ambition andor destination andor vision so I guess, that half makes up for it.

Thanks again for reflecting on this "outcome of my juggling"-issue!

7b_wizard - 2015-08-24 13:20:54 UTC - Parent #

.. but I shouldn't wrong anyone having (strong) "goal or longtime far-aim" for not choosing "vision", which in fact has much stronger a notion of more of like a (powerful) imagined, visualized `pictured dream´. (which is exactly what I wanted to poll on)

7b_wizard - 2015-08-24 13:26:05 UTC - Parent #

.. so it's not so surprising after all .. Three out of Sixteen have, every Fifth, has a juggler's dream. That's great! ;o])

pumpkineater23 - 2015-08-24 13:58:59 UTC - Parent #

I think it might be good to have aims when we're younger.. to help push to the next level.

Eventually though progress slows, stops and then everything starts to fall apart as our bodies and mind deteriorate. "You live and learn - then you die and forget it all"

I suppose that's ultimately where our juggling leads to. But like life, it's really about the journey, the path rather than the destination.

I think we leave something behind when we stop though, a tiny piece that goes towards changing and evolving the amazing infinite juggling puzzle.

7b_wizard - 2015-08-24 15:01:24 UTC - Parent #

common and deprecated misconception about aging .. you forget that it's possible to early learn how to learn, to early learn how to stay aware, and to learn how to cope with and handle your own strengths and flaws (at learning on and on and pursuing aims). You never stop learning and adapting and doing and figuring out new things (need be learned first again) - getting into new stuff becomes a routine and optimized, and awareness of erroneous ways in the labyrinth is trained and stronger. Juggling is not only athletics _{[athletistry? athletry? lol]}, but a whole lot of skill.
Also researches have proven that, .. that new synapses are being built (=learning) also at old age.
I also don't think many jugglers (among all) go to their limits (daily), and many stop to practise a lot at a certain high level, so you can get to such high levels - no matter what age - by simply investing time and work (that others don't) and with ardour. ( But I'm afraid, I'll stay owing proof on that for say another decade or two haha IF I DON'T GET THAT `BREAKTHROUGH´ on "playful seven balls" .. ).