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Giocoleria da diporto -

9 ball reverse cascade qualification.

Argentinian Enzo Nicolas Aguero is the first juggler ever to juggle 9 balls in a reverse cascade for at least 18 catches: what we call «a qualify»¹.

He juggled for 19 catches this pattern which is the most mistreated of the basic patterns, for the majority of jugglers, because of its difficulty.

https://youtu.be/3kSkKuPr6H8 or https://www.instagram.com/p/CtMheXuA5F7/


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¹ and I didn't understand why: English speakers could you please explain me why we use a verb as to qualify instead of a noun as qualification to refer to a noun? Is it a sort of ellipsis for «juggle to qualify»? Thanks.

The Void - - Parent

Well done Enzo. Thanks for posting, GdD. And yes, it really should be "a qualification", but the verbal form has been abbreviated into a noun. More correctly...
"He's qualified 9"
"That qualifies as a good run"
...but people are lazy. :-)

7b_wizard - - Parent

agreed, strong achievement + thanks for sharing.

Little Paul - - Parent

It (qualify) comes from the IJA numbers competition rules.

I’m not 100% sure when the IJA numbers championships started, but the earliest results set I can find is from 1969 - the language associated with the competition has evolved over at least 54 years.

When competing in each stage of the IJA numbers championships, you have a short period (4mins?) to stand there attempting that number of objects. To pass/qualify for that stage of the competition, a qualifying run has to start within the first 2 minutes.

The IJA website seems to be broken, but here’s a link to the 2017 rules, they’re quite interesting in other ways too https://cdn.ymaws.com/ym.juggle.org/resource/resmgr/docs/2017_ija_numbers_rules.pdf

To be considered able to demonstrate that pattern, and pass qualification, you have to make at least one attempt with a minimum of 2n catches.

So 18 catches of 9 balls means that *you* qualify for that category in the numbers competition.

People are lazy with language, so “able to qualify the pattern” (verb usage, describing the process of passing that competition stage) over time mutated into “a qualify” (noun, describing the minimum pattern that is required for you to pass that stage)

The IJA is less relevant to the wider juggling world now than it was 50 years ago, but the terminology leaked decades ago and is now in general juggling use… so the link isn’t always obvious outside of the USA

7b_wizard - - Parent

so nerdy!

love it.

7b_wizard - - Parent

..but seriously - I'm currently having problems with the expression 'catches clean, c cl'. It's been used to mean 'dropless, all caught' in distinction to 'but more thrown and maybe caught, but after first drop'.

But often 'all caught, dropless' - what I'm getting in practise - by no means deserves the attribute 'clean', rather 'catches as ugly as possibly can'.

So, I'm now going over to call these what they really are 'dropless' ('dl'?!) and-or 'all caught' ('a c'?!). Even though 'c cl' is so very burnt into everyone's dna. So nothing here can anymore be mistaken to performers who care for the meaning of 'clean', a clean finish or run or performance.

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

Thank you!

Here’s a link to the 2021 rules, where they define a «qualifying run»:

to successfully qualify a given number of objects, a competitor (solo or team) must keep the pattern going without a drop long enough for each hand to make as many catches as there are objects being juggled. For instance, in solo juggling of eight balls, each hand must make eight catches before there is a drop; and in two-person passing of ten clubs, each hand must make ten catches before there is a drop.
A greater number of objects cannot be used to qualify a lesser number of objects. For example, 19 catches of 10 rings by an individual does not count as a qualifying run of 9 rings, even though nine of the ten rings were each thrown and caught twice. A qualifying run must be made with the actual number of objects that are being juggled.


I don't understand why now both they and the WJF start the (large) numbers championship with 9 balls instead of 8, but then start the clubs championship with 7 clubs. The world record of 7 clubs is 4 and a half minutes, that of 8 balls just over 1 minute!

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

Correction: They are fortunately backtracking, at least those of the IJA, not Garfield with the WJF:

the 2023 rules returned to 8 balls as the first number allowed, unlike in 2021.

2021 rules:
Minimum Number of Objects
There is a minimum number of objects required to be juggled in any event. They are as follows:
Individuals: 9 balls, 9 rings, 7 clubs, 9 balls bouncing


2023 rules:
5. Minimum Numbers of Objects
There is a minimum number of objects required to be juggled in any event. They are as follows:

Individuals: 8 balls, 8 rings, 7 clubs, 8 balls bouncing

https://festival.juggle.org/ija-numbers-championships-rules/

I also insert an image since the rules page doesn't report a year in the address and therefore I think it will be updated:
https://ibb.co/423h5dy

Tufty - - Parent

That's an outrageously hard thing. Well done Enzo.

 

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