Hey guys,

Orinoco - 2016-09-10 09:36:09 UTC - Parent #

It was originally started by the Madison Area Jugglers at which point it was only HLGCB, the S was added later. It was made popular by the Carmine Street Irregulars. I remember taking this info which I used for the glossary on the TWJC site from some rec.juggling posts of which I can only find one. To help with tracking down dates it was already a thing by 2003

lukeburrage - 2016-09-10 12:54:23 UTC - Parent #

I added the S. It was during a trip in a 12 seat van from the IJA summer festival 2004 in Buffalo down to New York City. After hearing the Banes of 12 people, I thought it was a bit depressing, especially as Adria M Moskowitz went last each time, and even her H and G and C were super real downers. Either then or later in the week chatting to other people in New York I proposed Surprise to make sure the conversations ended on an upward swing emotionally.

Surprise took a good while to stick, but now it seems like a regular part of the format.

Daniel Simu - 2016-09-10 14:02:21 UTC - Parent #

I was vaguely aware that the S came later, as I remember seeing versions without S.
Thanks both of you for the information, I knew the Edge would be the right place to ask :D

Oh and Adria, haha, that is a name I haven't heard for a looong time!

Little Paul - 2016-09-10 14:55:31 UTC - Parent #

I'm willing to bet it was something to do with her eyesight

lukeburrage - 2016-09-10 15:31:34 UTC - Parent #

I can't remember exactly. Ewan brought up that car ride when he visited this year, so it obviously made an impression on him too.

Her Crush was a juggler who she'd chatted with online before the festival, and when she arrived, she was expecting some romance. It didn't materialize. I won't name the juggler.

So yeah, maybe she misunderstood the format.

Daniel Simu - 2016-09-10 16:27:44 UTC - Parent #

Now that we're discussing Adria in public anyway..:

Her website lists this quote:

"she can clearly juggle better than many good jugglers I know."
--Luke Burrage

Care to share your story? ;)

lukeburrage - 2016-09-10 16:59:49 UTC - Parent #

Looks like it is a quote from this discussion: https://dev.juggle.org/history/discussion/archives/9278.php

I think it's great that someone has used juggling as a way to rehabilitate after a serious accident, but then (I feel) the story should be something along the lines of "I used to be disabled, but juggling helped me regain my health/abilities" and not "I'm a disabled juggler". If someone has bad eyesight and was once injured, but can now juggle 5 balls, I find them self-identifying as blind and physically disabled as a form of self promotion somewhere between dodgy to cringe-worthy.

But that was all over a decade ago. Now I'm not sure I care enough to be right or wrong on the topic.

The Void - 2016-09-10 17:08:21 UTC - Parent #

And I should refresh a page to check for replies before I post. :-)

Daniel Simu - 2016-10-22 15:23:49 UTC - Parent #

It has taken a while before it could be published, but now I'm happy to finally share it with you!

http://ezine.juggle.org/2016/10/22/ejc-2016-hlgcbs-as-organiser/

Mike Moore - 2016-10-24 01:10:49 UTC - Parent #

I enjoyed that very much. I think these are always fun to see from the organizers' views, as there are often those, "%$^& THIS ASPECT IS GOING SO WRONG!" which is either unshared, or quickly forgotten about by the general jugglers.

Daniel Simu - 2016-10-24 19:39:14 UTC - Parent #

Yeah, to be aware of the organizing stuff you NEED to be in the scene, since so little is written down (except about the BJC). I tried the same by publicizing data on my blog from the NJF2013, but I've taken the blog down by now so can't get you a link, haha ;)

Orinoco - 2016-10-25 11:37:54 UTC - Parent #

Interesting you think BJC is an exception. A common complaint in BJC circles is, "Not enough is written down".

Little Paul - 2016-10-25 12:28:03 UTC - Parent #

I think both are true.

There is more written down about running BJCs than about most fests, but there is still much more that could be usefully written down.