Owen Greenaway - - Parent #
The best tips for you will depend on what you can currently do and what you are struggling with. You might get a better response if you are more specific but I can give some general tips.
Prerequisites:
Solid three club cascade
The better you are at balancing a club on your face the easier the trick is.
Tips:
- Throw the setup throw forward so you catch the club nearer the knob. This'll make it easier to consistently place the end on your chin.
- Make sure the setup throw is floaty/lofty.
- The pattern is probably slower than you think. Every "roll" could actually go into a balance. I personally learnt it this way. Each time I got into a balance, I waited till I was stable, and then did one setup throw and swapped the club on my chin.
- 99% of the time I think I am looking at the balance. I only flick my eyes to see the club I want to catch.
- Maybe try to go from cascade to one club in a chin balance and then drop back into cascade.
Which part of the trick is causing the most problems?
Little Paul - - Parent #
Also, break it down.
Practice with one club - throw from your left hand, catch in your right and immediately put it on your face. Then throw from your right hand, catch in your left and immediately put it on your face. You need to get that movement smooth.
As Owen says, you need to either catch it near the knob, or let the club slide through your hand until you're holding it near the knob as you raise it to your face. This makes the placement much easier.
Then work on placing one club on your chin out of a 3 club cascade, and keeping it in a balance. This is generally easier with a slow lofty cascade (you can bring it down and tighten it up later) and at first you can probably expect not to make the catch immediately after, don't worry about that - keep the balance - you can work on the catch later.
Then when you've got that comfortable *from both hands* work on catching the next club.
Owen Greenaway - - Parent #
I really should break down my tricks to one club but I find it so boring that I never do it. I just do a very slow and rigid pyramid practice scheme for everything.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Heh! I find pyramid training super boring and tedious!
Yet again we hit upon the notion that different jugglers learn in different ways. Do whatever works for you.
Brook Roberts - - Parent #
Good advice is probably to do the most rigorous and regimented practice that you find interesting.
But if you don't find it engaging (in some manner) you're not learning - far better to just noodle all day than force yourself into some scheme you don't enjoy.
if you don't find it engaging (in some manner) you're not learning
Cite? That's a new one on me. I mean, if you hate it so much you quit then you're not learning anything. But if anything this is the opposite from most advice on practice I've heard, that if you're serious about learning something then you practice whether you feel like it or not.
jamesfrancis - - Parent #
I think its a matter of motivation. I won't learn anything juggling related through structured practise because I get bored. Better for me is to keep it mixed, keep it interesting, and make sure I keep trying new things. I know this isn't the most efficient way of learning, but I have no reason to put myself through something I don't enjoy for something that isn't necessary for me to know (face it, unless you are professional no juggling can be described as necessary).
I have tried structured training before and got frustrated to the extent that I stopped practising. Ultimately the slow inefficient way is faster for me to learn something...and much more enjoyable too.
thanks alot and alot of those are things i try and know.. but i think the think im having the most problem with is the throw and catch beside myface.. my cascade is pretty solid and so is my chin balance i just cant get them together ?
Scott Seltzer - - Parent #
Two people said floaty/lofty but they didn't mention that it should also be caught as close to your face as possible. You don't want to catch it out in normal position and bring it over to your face. There isn't time for a long movement. You want to catch it high up and less than a foot (30 cm) above your face so you can just set it into place. It's easier to catch high and bring down to your face than if you catch in front of your face (even if it's a foot in front). If you watch videos of people doing it solid on one side, you'll see that they don't rally carry the club very far as they place it. They catch it nearly in the position ready to set on the nose (or chin or whatever).
-Scott
Owen Greenaway - - Parent #
Good spot Scott.
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