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Siteswapordle
You can blame Graham Haslehurst for this. Or perhaps I should just let jokes pass by without doing this kind of thing...
https://siteswapexplorer.com/siteswapordle/index.html
1. Damn you Barnesy!
2. Siteswaple Shirley?!
3. Go on then. Siteswapordle https://siteswapexplorer.com/siteswapordle/index.html?utm_source=share
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https://siteswapexplorer.com/siteswaple/index.html
I'll have to fix the redirect for the old one tomorrow - time for the school run!
This is really cool, could you put a link to or animation of the pattern once you have solved it, like they do with phrasle
Maybe! I’ve not seen phrasle, will have a look. I could also put something in the share text to link to siteswap explorer but that’s probably too mixed a message!
Oh yeah, more than a mixed message, it would spoil the answer! I’ll see some time if I can add a link to the success message.
el_grimley - - Parent #
For something based on a flippant comment its surprisingly engaging.
I thought it was just a flippant response but now I’m enjoying the game too!
The work I put into it was comically slight: I just replaced the word lists and gave it a new name. Now that it has users I’ll have to make sure it keeps working!
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Oof, I feel like this would be a lot easier with my state explorer! But I sadly broke it for the time being... :(
Nice work!
I got ...
1 gold, 2 green, 3 green, 4 gray, 5 gray.
That leaves 0, 6, 7, 8, 9 as different digits, if needed. Or also more of 2, 3, 1.
Now, the 1 can only belong, where I guessed 4, so as to not bite with the 3 landing. It will then from there land, where I guessed 5.
So, then is still open where the 2 and 3 come from.
I musn't now let the fifth position land on the 3, 'cos the 2 could not anymore be accessed ( but by a 1 before it, which was wrong, let alone that 1 then not be accessed ). So my fifth position will have to land on the 2, done so by 2 on it ( the former ).
That then leaves 2 or 7 to access the 3 from first position:
7 gray, 2 green, 3 green, 1 green, 2 green.
Only 2 2 3 1 2 left now, and was right, all green °•yipih•° :oD
My strategy is guess 97531 & 86420 which at the very least tells me what all the candidate digits are. So far more often than not I get enough information to work out the correct answer on the 3rd guess. This actually makes a very nice little logic puzzle!
I also use the first two guesses to get all the digits. I think that's a good strategy, but often there is still more than one possible solution after that. (I have used 12345 and 67890 or something similar.)
I have used more guesses than necessary at least twice due to not paying attention (placing a digit in a position where I should know it didn't belong because it was yellow there). But yeah, without mistakes like that it should be possible to get pretty good stats.
Little Paul - - Parent #
You should turn on “Challenge Mode”
I like how such different aspects as thinking in orbits and having to close orbits, their loop, then divisibility of the sum by 5 ( leaving only 5, 10, 15, .. multiples of 5 for sum ), then bare guessing to start off, and knowledge about states, in complexity melt to one siteswap.
Very fun, thank you for making it :)
Is there a reason it doesn't like siteswaps that start with 0? E.g. it doesn't accept 00555 or 05550.
Glad people are enjoying it!
There was a good reason for that: I made a mistake! I fixed that a good few days ago, so I hope you just need to force a refresh to pick up the newer javascript.
The code should contain a list of every suitable siteswap. It could of course validate entries instead, but what seems to be working on the site is my half hour hack!
My mistake meant that everything starting with a zero wasn't on that list. I can certainly enter 00555 here, so I think it is a caching thing if you still can't.
I was testing in an incognito tab as I'd already done today's, so would have assumed it wouldn't depend on the same one as my normal browser? But maybe not, either way it seems to now work in an incognito tab so I assume you're right about it being caching...
Oh, I think it may also have been because I just moved to a new host and the redirect from the version linked at the top wasn't working any more. And I don't think I had applied the fix to that version.
Easiest answer was to delete the old one and do some work! The correct link is https://siteswapexplorer.com/siteswaple
I was asked if Siteswaple could be made more difficult. Right now I'm not entirely sure that I succeeded...
https://siteswapexplorer.com/siteswaple11/
Daniel Simu - #
Siteswap State Explorer
Now that this forum is already into explorers, I present to you my new state exploring toy:
I hope you like it!
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
I'm glad the Edge agrees it is valid!
Very nice!
I’m going to have to read about states. I’ve been enjoying playing with siteswap recently, particularly because of the ‘well of course that works!’ feeling I’ve been getting after understanding something. But I don’t yet have that feeling whenever I see state stuff, even though it should clearly eventually give me that feeling!
It took me a while to get to 520401 with Siteswap Explorer, by the way. What with just typing the URL in seeming unfair.
I went: 333
Swap to 423,
Subtract period from the 3 to get 420
Add cycle to get 420420
Swap a 2 and 0 to get 420411
Swap the first 1 with the first 4 for 520401.
That's a neat little gadget. I'm always amazed by the creative juggling related non-juggling things we do!
el_grimley - - Parent #
I like this. I think Daniel Shultz did a similar thing with a wheel and markers. (I think it was a clear cd in a case but my memory is hazy)
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Your memory is correct!
I had not seen it when I made this, but he showed it to me as soon as I posted the video.
https://youtu.be/uBL7EIAfEIg
Re-starting juggling meetings after lockdown, what precautions should we take?
We stopped meeting for juggling in March, but we have now been told our juggling venue is open again though with a few safety rules and a limit of twenty people.
We have been trying to think of what extra safety precautions we should take to make sure juggling is as safe as possible. So far some of the ideas we have come up with are:
Has anybody else re-started their juggling meetings or have any good ideas of other precautionary measures we could take?
pumpkineater23 - - Parent #
Apparently, humidity can play a huge part in the transmission of COVID19. The droplets instantly become heavy when the air is wet, and fall to the ground. They hang around for far longer in dryer air. Both heating and air conditioning dry the air significantly.
The elephant in the room is will you allow passing?
Is it really a club meeting if you can't pass?
el_grimley - - Parent #
For the Wellington club we don't allow passing under our level 2 lockdown in NZ. Solo is fine. No juggling clubs allowed for level 3 or higher.
Level 1 is back to normal.
One more suggested caveat - Don’t feel obliged to come if you are afraid or don’t want to use public transport.
I have submitted a risk assessment to our landlords,I have said that passing not allowed (initially, am hoping to introduce) unless you are in each other’s social bubble. Keeping details for track and trace and making sure everyone who comes agrees to this. Subs must be paid online or in exact money, kit bags spaced around the hall and we have max numbers that can juggle at any one time, no sharing of equipment ( unless already ina a bubble with each other). The club will supply hand sanitiser and wipes that I will absolutely not be stealing from work. I have offered to do temperature checks if the landlords want but it doesn’t really have any value. Strict it rules for opening and closing the hall. Haven’t heard back yet but fingers crossed for September.
Alice
I'm not sure the jury's totally back in on whether temperature checks are useful or not. The real question there would be cost based unless you already have access to an IR thermometer etc. I suppose you could insist on rectal thermometer readings*, but that might somewhat limit participation.
If you're actually serious about limiting the potential for spread, there is no reason you can't insist on masks.
* rectal or under-tongue readings are pretty much the only ones that you can rely on. You can use the same thermometer, the only difference is the aftertaste.
We have restarted juggling meetings in Tübingen, germany, when it was allowed.
However we are still juggling outdoors (as far as the weather permits - also I should update club information here on the edge and on the webpage - we are in fact meeting again). We are about to start juggling indoors again soon, so it is interesting to read what other people think.
We follow all the rules you have written (we don't have a tea mug rule... nobody drinks tea here before / after juggling yet ;)) but we allow passing patterns for the people who like to do so (which are the same close group of people everytime, so if there is a spread it will be kind of limited).
As far as I know the risk of transfering Covid via objects is fairly low* and not the main infection path (which is via droplets and aerosols) and it can be lowered even further if everyone uses hand sanitizer before and after and does not touch his face in between.
Still - with passing manipulation patterns one does get closer to other people so it is of course a higher risk than juggling alone standing apart from each other. On the other hand one is then constantly changing position so it is less bad than - let's say sitting next to each other in a restaurant where there is no air movement and critical virus concentration can be reached. As far as I know the german contact tracing app only registers close contacts with a time of over 15 minutes.
Maybe interesting are some rules in germany for indoor training (this is specific for the state of germany I'm in, Baden Württemberg... other states have similar but different rules), of the top of my head:
+ If the sport is contactless (solo juggling) there should be at least 10 square meters per person
+ If there is the possibility of some contact situations there should be at least 40 square meters per person
+ Maximum number of people in group is 20 (but there may be more than one group if the facility is big enough)
+ One needs to make sure a distance of 1.5 meters is kept, also when using showers or toilets
+ If there is direct contact in sport, it should be made sure, that it is always the same people who have close contact (for example in partner acrobatics - which is allowed again - people should not change so much)
+ Contact information for each training session needs to be collected and destroyed after four weeks
*Interestingly it seems to be even lower on rough surfaces which is kind of counterintuitive for me.
We didn't shut down our juggling meetings (except when we thought the gymnastics club we are part of had cancelled our reservations for the gym, that was about 4 weeks in march-april).
The only thing we have done is bring hand sanitizer and a small poster reminding people to stay at home if they have symptoms, wash their hands before and after juggling, and avoid close contact. It's up to the participants to decide what close contact means, and whether they want to pass clubs or not. We are all adults (our youngest member is 17).
The flow club that we share practice space with did cancel their meetings during spring, though, which means we were only 4-5 people there each time, maybe 7 different people in total. (Our club needs more members....)
We don't have tea breaks but usually go to a cafe after juggling. We kept doing that but often ordered take-away and sat somewhere outdoors.
Now things are pretty much back to normal, the flow club is back, we still have the hand sanitizer and the poster.
unicycledotcom - - Parent #
Durham City Jugglers re-opened on the 8th September after quite a bit of discussion among the club and with the community centre where they meet. The community centre have been following the government procedures and have put in enhanced cleaning facilities, one way systems and installed gel dispensers in the hall and corridors etc.
The club did a separate risk assessment and procedures in parallel to that. As the club is only small and adults we think we think it is controllable. Here are some of the relevant points to this discussion:
ok... first week went well and all seamed good. Then on the 9th September the UK Government announce that it is restricting groups to 6 people.
The UK Government is rapidly updating their guidance and it looks like community activities like juggling clubs are exempt from this 6 person rule as long as they conform with their other guidelines. Here is the main relevant document we believe relates to juggling clubs:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-the-safe-use-of-multi-purpose-community-facilities/covid-19-guidance-for-the-safe-use-of-multi-purpose-community-facilities
This all seams such a fluid situation that everything is under review, but this is where Durham City Jugglers is at the moment.
el_grimley - #
No juggling for me for a while for one reason or another so I've just downloaded the kendama app. I think it's excellent. I am particularly enjoying the videos of everyone in their yoof.
Mike Moore - #
Polyrhythmic Siteswaps
I thought I remembered the Gandinis having some kind of document about polyrhythmic siteswaps. Does anyone know where that's gone, or if it ever existed?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
I can't remember a document but quite recently there was a thread at jRock in which Sean linked some videos and links:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JugglingHome/2865093247048606/
Mike Moore - - Parent #
Thanks! I'm looking for some kind of explanation of the math/notation, but maybe it's one of those "think hard and figure it out for yourself" kind of things.
Cedric Lackpot - - Parent #
Joost Dessing - whatever happened to that lovely person? - was also into polyrhythmic juggling, perhaps you could find something in the rec.juggling archives?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Last time I saw him at a juggling convention was in 2010... According to google he is a lecturer in Belfast... https://pure.qub.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/joost-c-dessing(67b2a59c-8662-4ceb-a17c-18de585994c1).html
el_grimley - - Parent #
Have a look at Rotating confusion and walsingham waltz in Aidan's book
lukeburrage - #
I made a thing:
https://youtu.be/zZ_rqkr5H68
Enjoy!
el_grimley - - Parent #
Hi. I watched your thing. It's a tricky question. Not sure I completely agree with you but can't put my finger on why. So thank you for making me have a think about it.
G
el_grimley - #
Juggling in journals...
I'm currently trying to put together a thing which includes some of the benefits of juggling and would like to be sure what I am saying is accurate and backed up by science. Trouble is, most of the journals I am coming across are paywalled which goes against the openness of the thing I am trying to put together (I want to be transparent). Are there any good journal articles that anyone knows about that are worth a read that aren't paywalled. I also want to make sure I am not caught in some kind of Google search bubble.
Thanks
Mike Moore - - Parent #
This is a great summary of some literature:
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/f26fd44e5089672530bb4fab9/files/5d16b546-0730-402c-8ac7-77d8fb15232a/What_Scientists_Have_to_Say_about_Juggling_Thom_Wall_Final.pdf
There's also some work on anxiety easing due to juggling. IMO, limited academic research, but I have seen a couple therapists (I think) report positive effects in less formal media.
As for specifically non-paywalled, theses come to mind. There was one from the University of Manitoba:
The Impact of Circus Arts Instruction on the Physical Literacy of Children in Grades 4 and 5
el_grimley - - Parent #
Thanks!
Little Paul - - Parent #
For paywalled articles, if you can track down the authors I’ve had some success in the past by emailing the author and asking for a copy of the article.
it’s not always possible to identify current contact information, and success will vary depending on the author (and how nicely you ask!) but it doesn’t cost anything to try.
el_grimley - - Parent #
I'm trying to make what I am putting together easy to be checked. If I jumped through hoops to get some information I don't want other people to do the same. That said I have often found that reading a lot of journals, especially the links they give, and then narrowing down later super useful so I'll give this a go.
Have you searched using google scholar? They will often link to self-archived versions that are not behind paywalls.
For example, as a UK academic, I have to put my papers on my institutional research repository. The library then works out when this can be released (according to copyright restrictions) for open access on our site, which is sometimes before the version on the main site becomes open access.
el_grimley - - Parent #
Thanks. I'll have a look at this over the weekend.
Ilia Poliakov - - Parent #
Hi! Most popular benefits you can find at Dave Finnigan and Tom Wall.
I have some papers not about benefits, but about science of juggling. Write me to email if you interested in. ilimmd@gmail.com
el_grimley - #
Hi. Show nerd help required. I saw a cigar box routine sometime in the last 8 years where the performer started with 10ish boxes then progressively reduced down. It would have been at a UK convention or EJC or NJF. May have been one of the BJCs in Darton. Any idea who it was? Thanks.
Not entirely sure, but maybe you're thinking of Lukie? https://www.instagram.com/lukie_boxmonkey/
el_grimley - - Parent #
Not sure however for the purposes of the conversation I was having it might do.
el_grimley - #
So on a recommendation from a friend I recently watched this. http://juggling.tv/4704 It was excellent to see Aidan talking about juggling and also weird to see some faces much much younger than they are now.
[Skimming through] Hey, Ewano & Mikey - there's a glimpse of the "hat vs tray" routine you were talking about at Catch!
I lookled up that fitness sheet.
mike.armstrong - - Parent #
Jonathan Jolly (who made this this film) was at the EJC this year - it was really good to catch up with him after all these years. He's also got some really interesting-sounding footage of Aidan which should be heading to JTV soon!
CameronFord - #
So it’s the start of 2018 – Happy New Year jugglers!
The start of a new year is always a time to reflect on your life and where you want it to go… or to just completely ignore that and think about juggling, which is what I’ve opted to do:
So I’ve had lots of interesting conversations about how people practice juggling, when they started and how quickly they learnt certain tricks. One topic which often comes up is how Anthony Gatto practices. Obvious he’s pretty decent at juggling, so must have been doing something right when he practiced. I decided to try and emulate his practice.
DISCLAIMER: I think Anthony Gatto has a strong claim to the title of ‘best juggler of all time’ and I in no way think I will ever be anywhere near as good as him. I respect his ability immensely and if I say anything like ‘obviously he’s pretty decent at juggling’ like in the line above, I’m deliberately understating things for comic effect. Hopefully this explanation didn’t spoil that effect too much, but I would hate people to think that I don’t respect his ability or that I’m trying to compare myself to him in any way. I just want to get better at juggling, and tell a few jokes. I also don’t think I’m a particularly good solo juggler either, so any statements I make to the contrary are also jokes.
END OF DISCLAIMER.
After reading https://www.juggling.org/help/essays/gatto.html and watching some of https://youtu.be/gtsaTMdKVTM I think these are the key things I’ve learnt about how he practices:
1) Warm up with some gentle balance exercises.
2) Practice for one hour, but every day!
3) Work on each trick for no more than 2-3 minutes, take regular breaks.
4) Have a list of about 20 tricks you are working on, if you aren’t enjoying one, swap it out for another one.
I think the idea of this is you make slow progress on lots of tricks at once, and if you do this every day for 20 years you end up being the best juggler of all time or something. Sounds like a plan- anyone want to book 43 year old Cameron for a performance, he’s going to be awesome? (See disclaimer if you think I’m being arrogant…)
This is very different to how I practice. Sometimes I’m super motivated about one trick and work on just that for a whole session, sometimes I rattle through tricks more quickly. Sometimes I have seen someone do something at a convention which I want to try. Sometimes I have a new idea and want to try and come up with some tricks of my own. Sometimes I’m driving to Austria and don’t practice for a day. The point is, it varies- I don’t have a systematic juggling practice routine. I’ve got my juggling to a level I am proud of but I’m not the best of all time like Anthony… probably only like the 7th best of all time or something (see disclaimer).
I wonder how much better I would get if I started practicing like Anthony? That’s what I plan to find out over the next month or so, maybe with a few days off when I’m skiing/moving to Germany. Who knows, I’ll do it when I can though (I know this already doesn’t really fit with what he does given he did it every day but you know I’m doing my best…).
Right, so I’ll warm up with some balance stuff, cycle through tricks really quickly (I think I’ll have a timer running to keep me disciplined) now all I need is a list of 20 or so tricks:
Balance warm up:
Turn round, kneel down, stand up sit down stand up, clap behind balance, do Macarena etc with club in both nose, chin and forehead balance (2 minutes)
3 balls, 441, 4ball sync and async, 5 balls all with balance. Maybe flash 6. (5 minutes)
Ok, now I’m warm ish, maybe mills is also a good warm up for the arm? I want to work on mills anyways so let’s put some of that in:
Mills:
3 balls, 441, 531 (2 minutes)
4 balls, run, then 531 throwing 5 as under arm and as over arm. Kick up 3 to 4 (3-4 minutes)
5 balls, go for runs, try kick up 4 to 5 (3-4) minutes
I really want to get 5 ball mills looking nice it’s such a cool trick, seems weird only working on it 3-4 minutes but hey, let’s give it a go.
Pirouettes:
3 balls, 3 ups including linked 3 ups and 2 stage 720s (3-4 minutes)
4 balls, 4 ups out of both hands, 2 stage 720 out of sync? (3-4 minutes)
5 balls, 3 ups starting out of both hands, try and get 2 linked (3 minutes)
5 balls, try and land a 5 up out of both hands (3 minutes)
5 balls, 3 ups out of (6x,4)* ? (3 minutes)
I wonder if I’ll find the pirouette section tiring? Maybe I’ll switch this to being at the end after I try it tomorrow. What am I on now? 33 minutes or so, wow, that’s half my practice gone! Ok better get on with it:
5 ball siteswaps:
744 (1 minute)
645 (1 minute)
633 (1 minute)
94444 (1 minute)
97531 (2 minutes)
(8x,4)(4,4) out of (6x,4)* (2 minutes)
753 (1 minute)
Man that’s another 11 minutes gone, how did Anthony make this work? All I’ve done is balls. Crazy he was efficient enough using this practice to get at least as good as I am at all three props, if not better… (disclaimer).
6 ball practice:
3 in one hand, each way (1 minute)
One handed siteswaps with 3 balls like 432 and 42 each hand (2 minutes)
66661 (1 minute)
Run 6 async (2 minutes)
Run 6 sync (2 minutes)
Transition between sync and async (2 minutes)
Kick up 5 to 6 (1 minute)
Man I’m running out of time fast:
7 balls:
5 ball warm up, continuous 3 ups without spinning. 771. (2 minutes)
Try and get some runs of 7 balls (3 minutes)
It seems mad only trying 7 balls for that short an amount of time- I’m used to practicing it in half an hour stretches. I wonder if this will really help me improve?
Half showers:
5 ball half shower, throwing the odd high throw as a back cross (2 minutes)
6 ball half shower (2 minutes)
Man, that’s over an hour! This is insane, I have some other 3 ball tricks which I would love to get solid for an act in the future, I haven’t done any contortionist stuff, I haven’t practiced any of my shower tricks. There’s so many more ball tricks I can think of I want to work on and just as many club and ring tricks… I guess I’ll have to gradually change what is in my practice over the next 20 years so that I master clubs and rings too. Oh and head bounce. Also might take up cigar boxes. Should probably do some passing at some point too… hmmm.
I’m planning on trying this tomorrow after I’ve done some tutoring, if anyone has any feedback/suggestions of things to add or take out I would love to hear it.
I’ll post an update with how I found the practice tomorrow, and maybe again after 5 days or a week or something. Will definitely post again in 20 years when I’m the best of all time (disclaimer). Hopefully if you've read this far that last disclaimer was unnecessary. Bye x
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
I always wonder how much this differs from his practice when he started out. This routine of his was perhaps built more to help him maintain the level he had, it could be different to the training he did when he was actively learning new skills!
CameronFord - - Parent #
So if you follow the link from the post (https://www.juggling.org/help/essays/gatto.html) it describes how he tried juggling 4 clubs for the first time. Very different from my experience of learning 4 clubs- I remember putting in lots of hours and ending up with fairly battered forearms. It seems crazy to me that anyone can learn new tricks by spending such a short amount of time on them but I guess the key is doing it every single day. I guess the fact it seems crazy is why I want to try it for myself and see if it works for me :)
Obviously I can't know for certain but as far as I can tell this really is how he learnt new tricks as well as just maintaining ones he could do already.
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Oof, different from my experience too. I spent a whole summer on 4 clubs..
Scott Seltzer - - Parent #
https://www.juggle.org/anthony-gatto-interview-on-practicing/ the last question:
eJuggle: How has your practice style changed over the years?
Gatto: It has not altered too much. I follow the same structure as I used when I was ten. What I do now more than ever is listen to my body and do not force things to happen.
CameronFord - - Parent #
Day 1 log now posted.
el_grimley - - Parent #
I used an app called "action timer" for when I had to do a bunch of physio. Basically put in the length of time for each activity, the title and hit the go button. It will tell you what to do when (including rests). If you plan to do the same thing week in week out it might be a good way of getting consistency. I'm sure there are a whole bunch of similar apps which might fit your need if you don't like that one.
Stephen Meschke - - Parent #
I have been using an app I created to structure my juggling training and collect juggling data. The Android app is called Routine Builder. It is available free in the Play store, and by email. Check out my training logs to see what the app can do.
Lets not forget that he also had a coach. Someone who watches closely from a different perspective and gives good feedback is invaluable. It is perhaps what allowed him to get so much out of such short sessions. The question is if the same practice structure is optimal for a juggler without a coach.
CameronFord - - Parent #
Very true, I guess what I'm really testing is whether this 2-3 minutes per trick style of practice works better for me than my normal fewer tricks for a longer amount of time style. It's definitely different from what he did in a number of ways.
Mike Moore - - Parent #
A while ago I was working on consistency of patterns. I made a recording of myself saying the name of a pattern I wanted to work on, then put in silence so the total track length was 30 seconds. I think I had something like 6 different tricks, so I duplicated each track 9 times to give me a total of a half hour of audio. I made this a playlist, hit shuffle, and BAM! I practiced in a very focused way for 30 minutes[1].
I did make a lot of progress during this time, but probably similar progress to when I practiced for the same amount of time by myself without such a rigid structure. Hard to tell.
[1] - For if you're having trouble understanding what I'm talking about, the session would sound like this:
"Around the head shower, right hand" [~30 seconds of silence]
"Blind behind the head" [~30 seconds of silence]
etc. etc. for 30 minutes.
As far as I understand your routine is a random circuit training, because you 'hit shuffle'.
I think that most people train in a linear way, one trick after another for a certain amount of time in a training session. I like the idea of a circuit training and for some tricks I have made good experience with something like A-B-C-D-A-B-C-D ... or A-B-C-D-B-C-E ... after a warmup and with short breaks in between. The letters are representing different tricks. At the end of a session I have repeated some tricks 2 or 3 times. 2-10 minutes per trick works well for me.
CameronFord - - Parent #
I really like both these ideas, maybe I should switch up the order I do my tricks in rather than always sticking to the same order. Revisiting them in the same session is also an interesting idea... thanks for your ideas :)
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