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Little Paul -

Seeing as Jays pontificating about online communities has resurfaced 3 years later, I may as well ask something that has wandered across my feeble brain a few times recently…

Does anyone know of any juggling themed mastodon instances?

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

Unless some server of that distributed social network has set the character limit beyond 500, I see no reason to create a space dedicated to juggling on Mastodon, since it would have no particular merits compared to Twitter.

Danny Colyer - - Parent

It would have one major merit, in that it wouldn't be on Twitter!

I've given up on Twitter since Musk decided to disable the 3rd party API. As far as I'm concerned, having to use either a browser or the official Twitter app means that the value I would get from Twitter doesn't merit the effort involved in trying to see what *I* want to see, rather than what Twitter wants me to see. So I don't bother, and I'm certainly not alone in that.

Mastodon, however, works.

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

But it is impossible to use Mastodon, as well as twitter, to make the slightest technical discourse.

I mean: in 2023 having to write a text of ten lines with continuous 1/10, 2/10, etc... is worse than having to use [1], [2] on a newsgroup due to lack of text formatting...

Danny Colyer - - Parent

Ah, I see your point, and you're right, but I think you may have missed the point of the original question.

Not all juggling discourse has to be technical. Indeed, in the 30 years that I've been using online jugging forums, I'd say that the majority of discourse (at least the discourse that I've bothered to read) has probably been non-technical.

Microblogging sites serve a different purpose, which might not be of interest to you, but is of interest to others. That being the case, it's fair to discuss the relative merits of different sites for that purpose.

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

For information on festivals or conventions or to advertise your videos, which are the two most common types of communication between us jugglers, the already used social networks seem sufficient to me.

Introducing new ones only further disperses the information, already too scattered around (every time I have to remember where I saw a video from a few months ago I go crazy!).

What advantages do you see in introducing microblogging as well?

Little Paul - - Parent

Ok, so you don’t like mastodon. thats fine, not every technology has to be liked by everyone, and not everyone has to like every technology!

My question still stands though, are there any juggling mastodon instances out there?

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

Burrage is quite active on Mastodon as well, if he comes by here again he might be of some help to you.

https://mastodon.social/@lukeburrage@masto.nu

Danny Colyer - - Parent

Personally, none :-D

As far as juggling is concerned, I can't see that it's something I'd use, but for anyone whose preferred social medium is Mastodon it makes perfect sense that they would like an easy way to find juggling discussion on that medium.

I've certainly benefitted from information that I've found through Mastodon groups that is doubtless available elsewhere, but not anywhere that was as convenient for me to find it.

Relax your FOMO! You don't need to be able to access every public jugging discussion that's online!

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

The dispersion of information is not my problem, if anything it is for an aspiring professional who wants to expand his network of contacts.

Orinoco - - Parent

Ta daa!

https://jugglers.network/

However, it will be closing down at the end of the month :(

The fact that you were unable to find this might explain the problem with Mastodon!

I played with Mastodon for a while when it first came out, I found it much more pleasant than Twitter. I don't think being on a specific instance is all that important, following & using the relevant hashtags is the key. Myrdin has the right idea:

https://jugglers.network/@myrdin/109439146116788809

Orinoco - - Parent

Just out of idle curiosity I just took a look at post lengths on the Edge. The average length of messages posted to the Edge is 410 characters. My personal average is 537 which ranks 195th in the leaderboard of wordiest posters.

Longest message so far is 53192 characters (yes it was by me, so were 8 of the top 10), shortest is 1 character.

Mïark - - Parent

EJC 2023 is on Mastodon jugglers network, but all the other public posts seem to be about French politics.
https://jugglers.network/public/local

I cannot recommend it as all my attempts to join have failed.

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

Ta daa!

Isn't it forbidden by the regulation to recycle the animation of an n-ball siteswap similar to 774 (if I have seen correctly) on a second thread?

Or even transcribe the sounds of old versions of Windows? 🥸


How did you find it? Following the traces left by thematic hashtags?

In any case, I wasn't the only one who found it unattractive, if who created this «instance» (do they really call them that in those parts? To an Italian it sounds like a very bureaucratic or IT term, so I suppose it is extremely geeky even for an English-speaking) writes:

jugglers.network will close on June 24.

The instance opened in November 2022 and only a few jugglers have joined.

I spend my days on the computer and would like to devote my free time to nature walks and seeing the people I love rather than more and more screen time. So I decided to close the instance and leave mastodon (at least for a while).

The toots have been few on the local timeline but always interesting, thanks to all who participated.

🤹 Happy juggling.



What character limit did it have? Because if there are already few and you have to sacrifice some for hashtags hoping to be read, the situation is heavier than Twitter, which however is now taking the opposite direction, opening up to long-winded speeches as long as you pay for a subscription...

Little Paul - - Parent

I’ll be honest, I didn’t actually look.

I’m quite settled on mstdn.social and not looking for a move, I was just curious if there was an instance with any momentum amongst jugglers.

I offer no judgement about whether there should or shouldn’t be one, I was just curious if there was one!

Richard Loxley - - Parent

When I joined Mastodon last year, I thought for a while about adding a Mastodon server to https://juggling.family/

In the end I decided against it, when I looked into the implications of moderation and having procedures in place to respond to legal take-down requests for international jurisdictions.

I have however just set up my own personal Mastodon server. It's doable, but not trivial. I still don't think I'm up for the moderation issues. (I set up my own host because the host I was on is closing down due to the moderation workload.)

 

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