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Daniel Simu -

Juggle Jabber with Luke Burrage

That previous post was a mess, here is a new one :). Thank you so much Luke for joining me!

lukeburrage - - Parent

My pleasure.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

And then, last one this weekend: Gregor Kiock! A juggling teacher from Codarts Circus Arts university in Rotterdam, we talk about his teaching philosophy, juggling technique and posture, historical influences such as Bobby May and more!

@Miark: Of course quality posts above quantity, but I must say I'm a bit let down that my low quality random conversation videos of last year got more response than the new three.. :p

Cedric Lackpot -

Circus is the new normal - aerial hoop on Gardeners Question Time!

'kinell, it's been a long time coming, but aerial skills on GQT? Really? It was a question from someone who has an aerial hoop rig gaffed from sort of large tripod in the garden, and the panel were invited to suggest flora to enhance the framework. Wisteria they suggested!

Also, the panel went into full Daily Express mode, giggling and guffawing at such outlandish ideas, although mercifully they didn't start suggesting that forrens should be deported or burglars castrated, they weren't that Daily Express, just a bit befuddled by such novelties.

Daniel Simu -

JuggleJabber launch

Hey guys, it's been a while, but finally everything has come together and this weekend you can not just listen to 1, but to 3 interviews I did with jugglers! Upcoming is Marco Bonisimo, Luke Burrage and Gregor Kiock!

Without the Edge this might have not existed, so thank you very much, especially on the feedback of my previous random video conversations!!!

I want to grow and improve this still, so any feedback is still very welcome, whether there will be future episodes all depends on the comments I get...

Oh and for the facebook peeps, follow the project there too:

Thanks :)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Marco Bonisimo is a football juggler from the Netherlands. We talk about Guinness World Records, his personal life and juggling stories, and of course football juggling!

You can also listen to the audio version of this episode on SoundCloud:

Daniel Simu - - Parent

And yeah I totally messed up there with the audio. Here is the proper version:

Daniel Simu - - Parent

And there I managed to paste the old link. Yay for post editing :p

Let me try again:

lukeburrage - - Parent

Not being able to edit the posts wouldn't be so bad if the YouTube video embeds weren't obnoxiously large. There's never any need for them to be 100% width. The default embed width isn't an accident, as it is the most useful and pleasant to look at and scroll past.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Feature request: Default width AND please enable the full screen button. That combination would make me super happy :)

Orinoco - - Parent

Except for people with screens narrower than the default width. But try that (will probably require some cache clearing) which should have the best of both worlds.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Thanks for responding so quickly. This thread is kinda sidetracking now, but who cares :p

It's not quite the ideal version for me. jTV videos now load on top of text for me, so I can't read the text any more (should I screenshot or is it the same at your end?), and youtube videos unfold over the whole post which looks fancy, but is there a way to close those youtube links again? For example to check out the other videos in a post, or reread the surrounding text?

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Also, preview images do serve a purpose...

Orinoco - - Parent

Sounds like you need to clear your cache, specifically the css file in your case.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Thank you, I always thought a hard refresh did the job. A hard refresh on the CSS did the trick indeed :)
Also, I had forgotten I used a custom CSS, how do you remember such things? :o
And update it personally for me? :o


Orinoco - - Parent

I just update the main file, then push a button which updates all the custom ones!

7b_wizard - - Parent

[not thought through, ad hoc thoughts, brainstorm:] Made it upto 11:53 (topic "circus school" to follow, the Bonissimo interview) ..   (( my to watch list is growing and growing .. haven't yet watched corrections, the delaney bayles interview, .. am still stuck on two long gilligan vids. That's like 3-4-5 hours to watch juggling vids - but I can't (don't want to) take a day off to watch them all. Just ``did´´ the 15' AG appreciation. Am watching the long ones in bits of 5-10-15 minutes. And everyday juggler's weekly reel also has priority and I'm even getting two weeks behind with those sometimes. However, .. ))

I learn a lot about how jugglers incorporate juggling into their life, how they improve, their circumstances as jugglers, and about what makes them or their juggling special and it's nice to have a face, a person to remember, to allot, pictures in your head, when reading their names somewhere later.

I think, generally interviews could be made even more vivid and interesting by showing e.g. some specialities during the interview, even while talking on. (Also for not-yet-jugglers or beginners)

Looking foreward to your project being successful !

7b_wizard - - Parent

.. oh yeah, .. and .. however long you've been juggling, there's always a great wealth of tricks, other props, other styles, ways of doing, tricky moves, to discover, so I'm not surprised at all, that Bonissimo keeps on finding new (new to him) tricks to keep growing his repertoire. [that was a question in the interview] Juggling is ``open at the top´´ :o)

mtb -

Last night was the first chance I have had to get back to #HappyValleySpinjam since the end of November. There was only three of us, but it was rather entertaining. I got to show off my new LED poi. The main driving force (Christo) behind the meetings has been experimenting again, and has made some clubs.

Took a thick (30mm or so?) dowel and attached a slightly smaller one on one end. Then placed a pill bottle over the opposite end. I gave them a go and they were not bad, but a bit handle heavy. So we pulled off the bottle and added a bit of sand to each, which made them much nicer. They actually work ok, although they are pretty short, so they still rotate a bit faster than my Delphins. That said, they are heavy, and have no bumpers or anything.

I tried a few basic four ball things. The transition between synch and asynch is feeling more comfortable, but I am still getting lost somewhere in trying to start 534 (by throwing the 53 and then going back to standard asynch fountain).

Christo has some big plans for the year, so I might be getting some more gigs. Most of them are show up and do some stuff for a couple of hours, but with minimal effort from my side, so I get some pocket money that I can funnel back into getting new toys. We also talked about looking for a more central location that is indoors, so we will see where that develops towards....

The Void - - Parent

I bet your 5 and your 3 are both too close to your 4s. Try separating them more. Good luck with the gigs.

7b_wizard - - Parent

@ mtb - 534 - Maybe think of it as 345, all to same side, then sidechange (with always same ball doing 3-s and that ball also initiating the sidechange). Made me get a hold of it.

7b_wizard - - Parent

.. and 34530 with 3 balls is a very good preliminary exercise.

Jamilah -

hi :)

Mïark - - Parent

hi :)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

hi :)

Little Paul - - Parent

(: ih

7b_wizard - - Parent

hi :o)

Orinoco - - Parent

heh :)

Capricornwhite - - Parent

Hi :)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Whenever I see this kind of action I have to think of this:

Yuri - - Parent


Mike Moore - - Parent

hi :D

lukeburrage -

For an upcoming video, I'm going to share some stuff from the renegade at the BJC2k. What are the names of these two? All I have in my brain is "Andy" but that might be because half of all jugglers were called either Andy or Dave. Maybe Barney?

The Void - - Parent

Barney Bay (L) and Dave (R).

lukeburrage - - Parent


It's Him - - Parent

Barney Bay is of course a stage name. As Void knows he is more formally known as Barnaby Maunder-Taylor. He also does very little juggling now having major back problems.


Bendy Dan - - Parent

Dave Handley, if you're tracking surnames as well.

Orinoco - - Parent

"You can't see me, I'm wearing shades!"

lukeburrage - - Parent

That's the one.

The Void -

We had 9 at #Altern8 on Monday. (Get well soon, Richard.) Newbie Rosie was working on her 3 ball half showers both ways, and 4 balls, and also asked us how long the club had been going. We don't know exactly, but guessed about 25 years. Other new arrivals to the club were Anton & Angie, fresh to the area. Angie & Annette tried a dual booty-hoop which was more hilarious than successful. Anton and I had a little "remember when we both used to be able to do 5 clubs?" session. (41 catches, go me. Not sure what Anton got.) fak, Ian & Hazel passed clubs, and Hazel tried throwing tomahawks in passing for the first time, at Annette. (No-one was injured.) Biscuit quality: medium.

Mïark - - Parent

The juggling edge listing for Altern8 says it was established on 1 June 1994, so you maybe have another 2 1/2 years to meet your quarter century.

The Void - - Parent

Pretty sure it was me that entered that date. It was a guess. Hmmmm... might have to have a look in some old issues of The Catch....

The Void - - Parent

First listed in The Catch in the Winter '97 edition, but that may just have been when Tarim started running it, or maybe when it first had the name Altern8. There was mention on Monday that it used to be in a different venue...

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Oh, and I also remember that after I'd moved to Bristol (probably winter 1997) Tarim announced a 're-launch' of the club after the summer break (the club used to close down over the summer due to lack of interest).

I was lead to believe that previously the club was quite sparse, with maybe 3-6 people attending. But Tarim did a good job of publicity, so about a dozen people (myself included, and quite a few students) turned up on the re-launch night. That made a great 'buzz' and I think cemented the 'social' aspect of the club. Most of us carried on coming every week after that as it was so special. We also socialised outside the club a lot, and I made some great friends.

But I'm not sure if that re-launch was when Tarim took over, or whether he was already running it prior to that point.

Little Paul - - Parent

My memory for dates of events around that time is somewhat hazy, but I believe Altern8 was established up when the Freaks Unlimited workshop at the Elmgrove Centre in Redland lost their venue.

I have a feeling that the name of the club has its roots in it being an alternative to the freaks workshop - but I can't confidently claim that as fact.

Not sure what prompted the loss of venue - I think the Elmgrove Centre either had a refit, or started becoming more of a sports centre than a community centre. I only went to the Freaks workshop 3 or 4 times. If you think parking is bad where Altern8 is, you haven't tried parking near the Elmgrove Centre - which was a nightmare even in 1994 (and is pretty much impossible now)

The Freaks workshop is last mentioned in The Catch in 1994 - which would tie up with the foundation date mentioned above.

Tarim will have the full story though, as he was more directly involved.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Gutted that I'm missing so many sessions. My back is getting a lot better, and not stopping me do much now, except that sitting in a car is still very painful, making travel very difficult!

But Angie and Anton stopped off for a cuppa on their way to the club to give me some company :-)

The club was being run by Tarim in 1997 when I moved to Bristol. But it was run by Paul and Kelly from Freaks before Tarim ran it (I used to go to the sister Freaks unicycle hockey club for a year or two before I moved to Bristol).

I believe the Altern8 name change happened when Tarim took over (Altern8 was Tarim's domain name). But I think the spirit of the club remained from the Freaks days.

So the change to Altern8 probably happened in the mid-1990s. I don't know when Freaks started. Ian might remember more as I believe he previously lived in Bristol before moving to Liverpool, and went to the Freaks club (in a different venue) back then.

The Void - - Parent

Ah, well in that case, there was a Monday night workshop run by Freaks advertised in the 1st issue of The Catch (Sep-Nov 92), in the Elmgrove Centre on Redland Road. If that's the one, then were at least in the 25th year. But I think Ian said it used to be in St Werburgh's: perhaps that was between Redland Rd and the current address...?

Tarim - - Parent

Paul and Kellie ran the Freaks Juggling Club at the Elmgrove Centre in Redland Road and later moved it to the Horfield United Reform Church. They also ran a unicycle hockey night and team. When they moved out of Bristol, Tarim took on the juggling club and renamed it Altern8 - as Paul and Kellie were still running the Freak's Juggling Business (still got some of their fire torches). Since then, the club has also been run by Chocolate Jon and Ian but it's always felt like the same club. It's occasionally been in the other hall and once or twice in the church itself. There have always been biscuits - though not the same ones.

I have a very vague recollection of a club briefly running in St Werburghs Community Centre (or was that a story-telling club?) but that wouldn't have been connected either way. Fool Time (now Circomedia) started in St Pauls but I don't think they had a drop in juggling club.

I can't remember any dates though. It's possible Freaks at the Elmgrove started in the late 80s - I'll see if Kellie can remember.

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Nice one Tarim. I have a feeling the Freaks workshop at the very wonderful Elmgrove Centre started late '90 or '91 because I remember going there, and I didn't arrive in Bristol until Sept. '90. I suspect it didn't start up until around the time Freaks moved out of their Picton Street premises. But of course Kellie would know far better than me.

St. Werburgh's Community Centre got used a lot as a practice and rehearsal space by Fool Timers but I can't recall any kind of regular juggling club there. As you well know there were quite a few juggling clubs to choose from at that time anyway. And I'm pretty sure Fool Time itself never hosted a juggling club during my time there, because the space was pretty much booked solid by courses, classes, and people using the specialist equipment there. But there was for a while the Friday evening kids' sessions which would've been the closest thing to a regular juggling club.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

I've just dug out my old diary (sadly I only started keeping my calendar on the computer from 17 June 1995, so I'll have to go through old papers to find anything earlier).

According to that I was definitely going to the Freaks Thursday unicycle hockey sessions in the Horfield Hall by December 1995, because I've got the fancy dress unicycle hockey session marked down on 14 December 1995.

I dressed up in my wizard cape, which was very dangerous when going backwards as it got trapped under the wheel. I remember that anyone who turned up without a costume was forced to wear clothing out of the boxes of jumble sale items at the back of the stage. There were a lot of people wearing middle-aged lady's dresses that night.

We've resurrected the fancy dress tradition when Freaks unicycle hockey team reformed as the Severn Wheelers. We now do a fancy dress hockey game every time Halloween falls on a Wednesday. So we've done them in 2007 and 2012, and will hold the next one in 2018 :-)

We also had a Bristol unicycle hockey tournament on Sunday 17 March 1996. I believe that was the one at the Whitchurch sports centre, because I remember I had been there before the BJC at the same venue in 1997. By the time of that tournament I had been upgraded to the Freaks A-team, so I must have been playing with the Freaks for a while. I think that tournament was the one where Ali fell into a 'wall', which turned out to be a door, making her disappear off the pitch, complete with unicycle and stick, with the door closing automatically behind her. We were all left wondering where she'd disappeared to.

Sadly I can't find mention of the Altern8 launch night in the diary. However I have an entry for a party at Laura's (one of the Altern8 jugglers) on 29 November 1997, and the same day a Portishead gig in Bath (which I attended with some of the Altern8 jugglers). So the club was definitely running by then. I moved to Bristol in June 1997, and my memory says that the relaunch was after that summer.

Interestingly, I do have an entry for juggling on a Wednesday (19 November 1997). From memory Rod Laver used to run an evening juggling club at Circomedia in Kingswood on a Wednesday night, so I'm guessing that was one of those sessions?

The Void - - Parent

I'm not sure if I'm clearer or more confused after all the answers. :-)

Dee - - Parent

Good to hear a report on the biscuit quality. My shoulder was (still) bothering me enough that I didn't want to go an aggravate it. Sorry that I missed greeting some fresh blood!

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place, but I think I used to go to Altern8 in the early 90s, '91 maybe. But you should ask Tarim, I have a feeling it might've been him that started it. Or maybe even ask Pippa Tee.

Yuri -

Hi, i'm a ball juggler and also like huts, i'm traveling and now i'm in berlín, good day to all.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Hi Yuri, welcome!
Lucky you, Berlin is the best place to be as a juggler!

Orinoco - - Parent

Hi Yuri, & thanks for the additions to the clubs database.

So what is so special to you about huts?

mtb - - Parent

German and/or misspelling of "hats"?

Welcome Yuri!

Yuri - - Parent

Misspeling, ;) thanks.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Oym oh bowll joggla ahnn aouwso loik hotts, ..

Is what I read .. , dialect.

Yuri - - Parent

Well, i like to make contact with all the body and huts, also like to juggling them, and practicing some essential movements with 3 huts like 3 juggling balls, and have joy.

emilyw -

Hey there, can I draw your attention to this call for funding applications:

and ask folk to forward it around to anyone they know who might be interested.


Tom Derrick - - Parent

That's something well worth considering. I'll be putting pen to email in the next few weeks.

Paul B -

Help with club ID - hi peeps, I've been given some Mr Babache Flip clubs, but they seem to have different top ends from the usual stepped rubber type, these ones are a very dense black foam rubber (a bit like the foam ends on Radical Fish)- does anybody know if they are the latest version? I am looking to order some extras for passing.


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