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Matan Presberg -

Guelph Juggling Mini-Fest HLGCBS
#GuelphJugglingMiniFest2016

Highs: Just hanging out and seeing everyone! Wish I could hang out with all you Canadians every week.

Lows: Having to leave early on Sunday and not getting to juggle.

Goals: Have a lot of fun. Check! Eat a lot of sushi. Check! See a lot of awesome people. Check!

Crushes: Absolutely Mike Moore. Very gracious host, great festival organizer and he led two great workshops! Thanks Mike :)

Bane: Wasn't super happy with how I taught my workshop. Something to work on.

Surprises: Gabe taught me some awesome siteswap math at dinner.

gcborawski -

Guelph Juggling Mini-Fest!

Highs: Receiving 2 tomahawk throws from Kai over 2 members of the opposing team in zombie combat

Lows: 45 minute wait to get back into the US...

Goals: I am still working on 5 club....progress is coming but very very slowly

Crushes: Mike Moore (thanks for organizing the festival!) and Terry (thanks for recording videos of world records!)

Bane: Being a bit sick this weekend.

Surprises: Awesome new games that I haven't played before including juggling quick draw, noodle combat, and the final ultimate game.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Thanks for posting! Glad you liked the games. For full disclosure, the first two were stolen from the Ann Arbor Juggling Fest.
#GuelphJugglingMiniFest2016

Likes3clubs -

Guelph Juggling Mini-Fest HLGCBS

Highs: got to witness some new world record settings, painting the cannon, juggling quick-draw, great weather & attendance (>40 jugglers)

Lows: it's already over...

Goals: painting the cannon for WJD and having fun in general - check ;)

Crushes: Terry, Jeremy, Mike (I remembered). A special thank you to the anonymous donor for pizza lunch on Saturday.

Banes: felt weird/tired so had to miss glow juggling

Surprises: Sydney's consecutive 99 catches of 3 ring backcrosses, Mike's grandparents came, 30 jugglers at sushi and how much mango pudding was ordered

Mike Moore - - Parent

**Highs** (loads!)

* So many lovely people coming, including some I didn't know, or know very well! I'm so happy they came.

* Juggling rave on Saturday night, which went well.

* Learning Tichu

* Running another fest! I enjoyed organizing and facilitating this event so much.

**Lows**

* Not being able to find my beautiful, new LED balls for the juggling rave

**Goals**

* Have this fest be a bit bigger than last year's: CHECK! I never felt pressed for space, but the energy was high.

* Break at least two records - not check, but I WRECKED the "most catches of 4b in one minute" record, taking it from 408 to ~472

* House reasonably an out-of-town group - checkish, I could've done a few things better for them, but it was mostly good.

* Run two new workshops well - checkish. They went okay, but I'll make some changes with scaffolding in the future for the intermediate cherrypicker variations workshop. I didn't get a good feel for how the breaking plane workshop went.

**Crushes**

* Out of ~~towners~~ contriers (Matan, Alex, Jake, Jared, Kai, Garrett, Mason.

* Terry for running the world record drive, which added so much value to the fest. Also for bringing some wonderful games, and even donating one!

* The JOUG exec, who did everything I asked, and did it quickly and competantly. I'm really impressed with them.

* Emily, for helping with a handful of things

**Banes** (pretty minor)

* I didn't sleep that much, but I wasn't in bad shape, either.

* Oh, and the mosquito bites from painting the cannon are a bit annoying.

* Not being as prepared as I should have been. This resulted in having to take about an hour away from the fest on Saturday to finish writing trivia questions/otherwise preparing for games.

**Surprises:**

* Both finalists in Simon Says not being able to do 6 consecutive under the leg throws. Twice.

* Pizza provided by an anonymous donor!

* The games table being utilized less than expected.

* Not forgetting anything important (knock on wood)

I'm sure I'm forgetting loads of stuff...

Thanks to everyone who came! I really appreciate it. Next year, I think I'm going to go all in and drop the "mini"

Orinoco - - Parent

So tell me more about the cannon.

& a big welcome to the new members from Guelph.

#GuelphJugglingMiniFest2016

Mike Moore - - Parent

The cannon is an old naval cannon that's seen at least one world war, and became a (fairly) permanent fixture on our university campus. It's been used for political statements (aimed toward administration offices) and engineering pranks (being put on rooves, and even moved to another campus). It's since been stuck to a block of concrete to stop that stuff from happening.

Somewhat more recently, since the ~50s or 60s, students started painting it. The rules of the cannon are:
i) painting may only take place after dark
ii) the first group to claim the cannon (may be done at any time) gets to paint it that night. Claims must be done (and maintained) through physical presence at the cannon.
iii) You may paint at any time after dark. As such, if one group paints it at midnight and leaves, another group can paint it at 3 am legitimately.

Painting intentions have included everything from wedding proposals, group celebrations, corporate advertisements, just for kicks, and everything in between. In my time here (~7 years) there has been hate speech on it once and only once, which was painted over rapidly by students in violation of rule i (but obviously, to no one's disagreement).

The jugglers have painted it twice, now.
The first photo here is from 2009, the second from 2016: https://imgur.com/a/6jkEb

It has a (now inactive) Tubmlr account: https://oldjeremiah.tumblr.com/

And for more details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Guelph#Painting_Old_Jeremiah

Orinoco - - Parent

That's a great tradition! Interesting to see the rise in siege weaponry at juggling festivals recently.

Brook Roberts - - Parent

So I have to admit to often looking at the jugglewiki 'records' and being pretty dismissive. It seems to me like you get a silly proliferation of records if you record them for everything, and unless someone seriously good tries them, they'll all be unreasonably low.

But your record event looked really fun, and I'm a hypocrite.

https://youtu.be/1Nfpscevf8M :)

Thanks for pushing me to improve at a trick I like! World record acheived - next stop, the jugglingedge record ;)

Thanar - - Parent

Congrats on your new record. Juggle Wiki updated.

As the sponsor of this World Record Challenge (as well as other ones at different festivals), I think this is a good example of why tracking records for various tricks is valuable. It encourages competition by a wider variety of jugglers who have areas of particular interest/strength.

You make valid points about avoiding "silly proliferation" of records and avoiding having records that are "unreasonably low". To this end, I have a list of minimum times/catches that must be met in order to set a record in a missing record category on Juggle Wiki. Juggle Wiki also limits the records it tracks to juggling with a single pattern (or catch type, etc.), not tracking combinations. This avoid endless multiplication of categories like "4 ball Mills Mess with penguin catches while doing a head bounce on a rola bola".

Matan Presberg - - Parent

I set the 933 record at the World Record Challenge and I'm not going to give up the record without a fight :) I totally agree with your view on the records, but I think the only way to fix the issue is to push the records higher. sO gAMe On! :D

https://youtu.be/mXVSoyY9z8s

Mike Moore - - Parent

That's the spirit!

peterbone - - Parent

That's impressive. Such a hard pattern. The records section here shows it as 120 catches, but this is without evidence.
https://jugglingedge.com/records.php?UserID=260&PropNumber=5&PropType=b&Trick=933

Brook Roberts - - Parent

You didn't think I'd wait too long to get a world record again, did you?

https://youtu.be/Z_Icw5NYrgM

OK, OK, it's not 933. That's a long run you got! I figured you might be able to do quite a bit better if you set the last one for a specific event. Given that my record was 33 (maybe 39) until two days ago, 100 will be a bit of a challenge, but I'll probably at least have a couple of goes this week and see if I can get much above 55.

Also, for the slow juggling, it's not very clear what the rules actually are. I like starting with some low throws and assumed it was no problem to just count the number of catches during a 1 minute period. Which got me 29 for my last 29 catches.

Mike Moore - - Parent

For fast juggling, I believe you must start from cold (otherwise you'd get an extra few catches, due to not having that brief period of all throws, no catches at the beginning.).

For slow juggling, I believe you may start from warm, because it's to your (theoretical) disadvantage. I'm less clear on that, though.

Brook Roberts - - Parent

Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. Although I can understand you might want to include the launch as part of the task. But you can't do that quite in the same way for 933 since it's excited anyway!

Thanar - - Parent

I agree that starting from a warm start for speed juggling is an advantage and wouldn't be allowed.

I posted a comment on your Youtube video, which I'll repost here:

Thanks for posting your video.

The general rules for juggling records are here: https://juggle.wikia.com/wiki/World_records#Rules - The subsection Duration of the record states that "Time is measured from the moment the first throw leaves the hand..." (I realize these rules would be tough for a casual user to find)

You're right that Juggle Wiki is ambiguous on which throw counts as the "first throw". Usually it refers to the first throw that matches the particular pattern/trick you're going for (e.g. the first throw that is caught with a penguin catch in the case of penguin catch record). So for this video, I would say that the run begins with the first "high throw" (which would be at time = 4.29 seconds, the moment the club was released from your left hand and went high) and continues for 1 minute after that.

If you could repost an unedited version of the video, I will count the catches using that method. If you do any edits, I would suggest not stopping the footage at any point, since this makes independent time measurements more difficult.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Today, about half a year after the fest, I finally found those glow balls.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Wait, that was only in June? Wow I have a bad sense of time.

InsertNameHere - - Parent

Highs: got to meet/juggle with lots of cool people, and really good jugglers. That game with the water guns was fun. And I learned some cool juggling stuff, in the workshops and just from people. Especially the ring workshop. That was cool.

Lows: food. I definitely should've planned out where to get food better. The free pizza was great though.

Goals: meet people, learn stuff, have fun. I did all of that.

Crushes: I got crushed in club combat and smash, if that's what you mean...

Banes: food again.

Surprises: I juggled rings. And learned that cool multiplex pattern with them. Didn't expect that.

drewinabox - - Parent

Highs: doing the black light night, seeing some world records, making more of the fest than last year.

Lows: missed the tutorials and games, especially the tutorials.

Goals: having the black night light go well, which it did

Crushes: Garret, Mason and Kai showing me other kinds of takeouts

Banes: none, really; maybe the kids on Sunday interfering with the world record attempts

Surprises: Juggling knives for the first time!

Mike Moore -

Guelph Juggling Mini-Fest

It's happening again! Out of all the fests in the world, this is the one most hosted by me. Important:
June 18-19 (let me know if you want crash space, we've got it)
University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario

For those not interested in going, you may still get a kick out of the pricing scale:
Price: between $0 - $10 for the entire weekend. Here's how it works:
Start with $10.
New to the mini-fest? Subtract $5.
Came last year, and posted an HLGCBS? Subtract $5.
Promise to post an HLGCBS this year? Subtract $5.

#GuelphJugglingMiniFest (maybe that's the hashtag! I got an error when I tried to write one)

Mïark - - Parent

Hi Mike,

Every event needs a unique hashtag, which might have been why you got an error if you tried to use the same hashtag as last year.

Try #GuelphJugglingMiniFest2016 - it should work

Looking at the event listing, I can't view the facebook event - maybe it has been set as private/only viewable to group members/viewable to people invited to it - event publicity imho works best when as many people as possible can see it.

I can't go to Guelph this year, but if I promise to post a HLGCBS can I still subtract $5?

Mike Moore - - Parent

Thanks for the hashtag info.

!! I was sure to switch the event to public, but you're absolutely correct, it's coming up as private on FB. I must've missed something along the way. Irked by this problem, because of events' inabilities to switch post-creation...

Everything should be working now.

Austin Hurley - - Parent

Excuse my ignorance but what is HLGCBS

Thanar - - Parent

Highs Lows Goals Crushes Banes Surprises
For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/juggling/comments/40jpa9/turbo_hlgcbs/

Austin Hurley - - Parent

Ah cool. Thanks dude!

Thanar - - Parent

Mike,

Since I live in Canada and the time is convenient, I'm planning to come to the Guelph Juggling Mini-Fest. Even though it is a smaller gathering, I'm willing to do some kind of "World Record Challenge" as I've done at some past IJA & WJF festivals, if you're open to it.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Wonderful to hear that! I am certainly open to it. I'll announce it on the Facebook page, as well, to encourage people to start practicing any patterns they have in mind for it.

Thanar - - Parent

Mike,

Thanks for the go-ahead on the World Record Challenge at the Guelph Mini-fest. I have made a PDF file with all of the details (rules, existing record categories on Juggle Wiki, list of missing records that you can set, 3 contests with 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes).

Here is the dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0h5txpygyosrpl/World%20Record%20Challenge%202016.pdf?dl=0 that you can distribute (e.g. post on facebook) as well.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Fantastic! I've posted it there. Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to provide (e.g. tripod, clipboard, etc). Great to have you coming.

Thanar - - Parent

For convenience, I made a PDF of all the records on Juggle Wiki: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylomyvux4y0jmd0/Juggle%20Wiki%20Records%20June%2018%202016.pdf?dl=0

There is an index of the categories on page 2, showing what page to go to for each category. I'll bring a printout of it. See you there.

Buck Rudder - - Parent

Very useful pdf, thanks.

 

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