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Terix -

Hello, I would like to ask a question) Maybe there is somebody who has similar problem or who had have similar problem and was able to solve it :D
I juggle 5 ball cascade for about 6 years and there is no progress - my record is 22 sec, but I can´t improve it for a few years already - where is the problem? Can it be that my arms are still weak?
Usually my cascade ends because of collision of balls, it becomes too wide, I am rotating around with cascade, it is too low or any other strange problem. I try to keep my elbows near body and throw it slowlier, but it becomes faster and faster usually, that is a problem too.
Please, can anyone give any advice that would help? I am quite disappointed because a lot of effort and almost no result.

Guili - - Parent

one question: how do you train for it?

I ask because since I first came to the forum I learned I was training without any method, and reading and asking to the people at the forum I got to improve the way I train, and got much better results, for sure!

What was really mind-blowing for me, is the "no-drops policy" and the pyramid training.
the no-drop policy says to Juggle only what you know you can keep in the air, if it's 5 catches, then just juggle 5 catches and collect.
combining with the pyramid:
10 times 5 catches
5 times 10 catches
2 times 20 catches
1 time 50 catches
This pyramid can be "moved up" when you manage to juggle it with little or no drops. Juggle like this every day and you will definetively see progress!
Keep it up and good luck!

Terix - - Parent

Thank you very much^^

Terix - - Parent

I forgot to answer, I usually throw and catch as much as I can, so I will try this pyramid system

Little Paul - - Parent

There are two plateaus early on in 5 balls which have easy fixes.

The first is caused by people concentrating so hard that they hold their breath (without realising it) so make sure you're breathing.

The second is caused by people concentrating so hard that they're forgetting to blink.

Eventually your body makes you do one or the other and your pattern falls apart. So take a step back from the numbers, chill out, and make sure that you're breathing and blinking.

If you're breathing/blinking ok, but are consistently rotating in the same direction, you can either follow it (and worry about correcting the rotation later) or try standing with one foot slightly in front of the other. If you're rotating to the right, put your right foot slightly further forward. If you're rotating to the left, put your left foot slightly further forward.

Terix - - Parent

Thanks a lot!)))

Mike Moore - - Parent

Hah, it's amazing how common those issues are. I had the breathing (and rotating) one with 5b and the blinking one with 7b.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Hi, are you getting into tensed juggling after those 20 secs, slaving to get more catches when long lost a smooth pattern with swift ado, with then arms rowing a lot? ( which then causes those problems you named )

I got over that phase, where tensions reveal, by ``hunting´´ for the easiest way, e.g. by going to early collects on slightest flaw. But mainly by this: ..

There's a difference when doing from wrist, giving thrust to get on the right height from wrist, aiming the last bit at release from wrist and fingers in a bit of a whippy way - it gives very hazardous throws at first, but one can learn to control these, learn to aim where the balls belong. ( I'm not sure, maybe how you play darts is a compare .. you don't throw with the whole arm lol, but aim and thrust from wrist and focus on where the dart should land. ) [ '.. very hazardous throws at first ..' ] .. but once you've gotten this speedy way of throwing plus aiming it well, it will help a lot for a) finding a smoother way to juggle 5b, b) getting back into that easier pattern after correcting while enduring.
  This is not about having to do wristy all the time while enduring, but about having that way of doing for fast bail out phases to get back to stable pattern without having to fight too much.

I suspect, you can keep a good pattern up for those 22 secs, but you're lacking control, when it comes to enduring, to coping with single throws going slightly astray or the whole pattern drifting.

A good approach is to check all properties of the cascade pattern in their variations: do these exercises with 3 balls ( or with 5b ) to find out, where you maybe have a major skill lacking yet: It's, the vid, also doing all your problems on purpose (e.g. turning the way round your patterns takes you), and also counteracting them actively (e.g. turning the other way round) to get a hold of them all. You learn to control exactly your problems, pattern's width, it rotating, its height an' all with these exercises.

Terix - - Parent

Thank you^^

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Try to expand your flexibility of dealing with your 5b cascade, it will help you to correct the errors that creep up after a few seconds. Here are the 53 tricks and moves I recommend you train:

Little Paul -

Ring or hoop isolations/manipulation

I’ve started playing with some 11” diameter steel rings recently (think jitter rings but without the noisy crap) and I’m interested in learning some isolation or other manipulation moves to go with them.

Does anyone have any sources they can recommend, either for tutorials that may be applicable, or for “inspiration”?

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Nicolas Longuechaud is fun to watch, look him up!

Mike Moore -

Fully inverted sprung cascade

The first of my endgame patterns. FINALLY got a qualify!!

Mats1 - - Parent

This is really nice. How hard is it to run for longer periods do you think? Is the jump from inverted box to this super insane, or just insane?

Mike Moore - - Parent

Oh man, SUPER insane for sure. In my opinion, inverted box is somewhere between 4.25-4.5 ball difficulty. Inverted sprung cascade is somewhere a little ~6.25 ball difficulty. Inverted sprung fountain ( is probably about 7b difficulty. I can't run fully inverted sprung cascade for long enough to give it a nice number like the others, but it's the only one among that group that I have to mentally really psych myself up for and can't follow in real-time. It's much harder than inverted sprung fountain.

Who knows, though. Maybe I went through the learning process of it poorly and other ways would knock down its difficulty considerably. And there's always the added difficulty of being the first to do it. It'll be easier to gauge its difficulty when a few more people can wrap their hands around it.

Mats1 - - Parent

I found inverted box is more like 4.75-5.0 difficulty!

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Haha, amazing!

What do you mean by endgame patterns?

Mike Moore - - Parent


There is a pattern that I thought of at IJA 2013 that seemed so conceptually clear (but non-obvious) and disastrously difficult. ~4 years ago I realized that there would be three interesting stepping stone patterns along the way. They were all so far above my skill level at the time, and I'm still not convinced they're all doable by me, but I set the very long-term goal to run them all before retiring from juggling. I reckon I can probably make progress on them until my early-mid thirties (other parts of life permitting), so there's slight urgency.

Fully inverted sprung cascade (FISC) is the first of those four patterns! In my opinion, patterns 2 and 3 aren't as cool as FISC, but pattern 4 would be a dream. I don't want to expose the later three patterns just yet, sorry!

Mats1 - - Parent

4: I guess it's inverted 5 ball tennis. I also think you probably have at least until you're 40 to work on this stuff.

Mike Moore - - Parent

It would be nice to have until 40! Having injured myself a handful of times through juggling working on things like this, I'd be a bit surprised to make it to 40.

Can you tell me what you mean by inverted 5 ball tennis? Maybe Inverted sprung 5b cascade? (Which is not the 4th)

Mats1 - - Parent

Yes, inverted sprung 5b cascade. Do you think that's even possible at all?

And let's hope your practice can make it to 40 and beyond! It's always good to see a new trick from Mike Moore.

Mike Moore - - Parent

I think it's possible, yes. I would guess it's even possible for me, but it would be very finnicky with all that 5b in not much horizontal space. Maybe in a year or two!

My practice will probably still be happening at age 40! Just on tricks less physically demanding with handspeed.

The Void - - Parent

"I reckon I can probably make progress on them until my early-mid thirties"

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

Amazing stuff Mike. It almost looks 'easy' in some kind of strange way. I can see there is almost no time to get from one throw to the next though, so it looks almost impossible too. You are truly pushing the boundaries!

Mike Moore - - Parent

Hah, I thought the same thing. Everything looks so simple, what's the problem??


7b_wizard -

How many juggling (or artistry, magic, object manipulation, whatever got you here) bookmarks (or: browser "favourites"), text or vid or also to software, anything "juggling", do you have?
.. and including secondary links that you keep for e.g. juggling background only or mainly ( e.g. learning theory, anatomy, history, showbizz, artistry in general, programming of juggling, etc. ).
[ no need to count, a rough estimation will do ]

  1. none.
  2. 1 to 5.
  3. about upto 15
  4. around upto 25
  5. 25 - 50
  6. 50 - 100
  7. 100 - 200
  8. MORE
  9. unclear, too fuzzily defined to tell, too much overlap (e.g. "browser\\offline", "juggling\\non-juggling\\artistry\\..", sources of any kind)

[ °wow° .. what a parentheses' mess once again lol - sry for that, but tried to make it halfway defined, un-misconceivable, able to nail, to find oneself in it, represent many ]

This is a competition thread which ran from 4th Jun 2018 to 11th Jun 2018. View results.

Mike Moore - - Parent

146 videos listed under my Youtube playlist "3b juggling ideas" alone, then many of my favourites are juggling. I also have a Mendeley account with a juggling folder for any academic articles on Juggling.

Much of what I do for fitness/nutrition are also for juggling, so I think I'll be in that MORE category!

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I've just tried to count the juggling videos in my youtube playlists, and estimate them to be around 360... That's definitely the most important source of 'bookmarks'. I don't tend to save written texts on the internet after I've read them (I save them if I want to read them later), as I can nearly always find them again through google using words I remember. Finding videos again is much harder as you search using text to find moving images....

Mike Moore - - Parent

I save the academic journal articles because they're typically behind paywalls. I have access to them at the moment, but not for too much longer.

Marvin - - Parent

This competition has now ended with 8 votes cast. The results are:

  1.   none. (1 vote)
  2.   1 to 5. (1 vote)
  3.   about upto 15 (0 votes)
  4.   around upto 25 (0 votes)
  5.   25 - 50 (1 vote)
  6.   50 - 100 (1 vote)
  7.   100 - 200 (1 vote)
  8.   MORE (3 votes)
  9.   unclear, too fuzzily defined to tell, too much overlap (e.g. "browser\\offline", "juggling\\non-juggling\\artistry\\..", sources of any kind) (0 votes)

7b_wizard - - Parent

Thanks all for voting!

I said 200, maybe a bit more, but I don't think notably more.

Apart from the examples already mentionned in titlepost, I have - of course - video-links, mostly numbers, then like teaching offers' homepages (even from other sports like tennis as a compare), in several categories, like prop-shops, sewing own balls, siteswaps, records pages, scientific e.g. biokinematics e.g. perception, a mostly empty "going pro" folder with undercategories "ship, street, therapeutic, circus-school, varieté, camp-workshopping, possible sports that juggling is possible compensation or exercise for, and more such mingle-mangle.

Ethan -


Quick question regarding shoes for juggling stage performances:

Anyone have a favorite style of shoe the like to wear while they perform? I've tried jazz shoes for a few years now, and they tend to not have enough grip for 360s etc. So, any suggestions?

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I love feiyues, it's a kungfu shoe which is popular among Chinese pole acrobats and circus students in general. But they don't look great on stage.
For pretty shoes I like Bleyer, custom colors and everything. Email them about their grip soles, for a fiver extra you get great soles on your shoes.
If you need standard smart/dress shoes go to shoesforcrews. They look basic but feel almost like a sneaker and have great grip.

Ethan - - Parent

Thank you so much for the suggestions! I've just ordered a pair of Feiyues, and I'm going to be ordering some shoes from Bleyer for an upcoming performance!


Dee - - Parent

​Coming from a ballet background, I would say to think about your "push off" technique. You shouldn't need to use your other foot at all to generate rotation. A bad technique can cause injury, it may be worthwhile to attend some dance classes to improve your technique to try to minimise the risk of injury in the longer term.

Ethan - - Parent

Thanks! I'll definitely look into it!

lukeburrage - - Parent

In ballet, do you use your upper body and arms to generate rotation? That’s cool for dancing, but for juggling you are often using your arms for something else at the time you want to begin generating rotational force.

Dee - - Parent

You use a surprising amount of stomach muscles to generate rotation, with some shoulder (but more stomach than people realise).

Techniques will need to be adapted for juggling (of course), but going to more grippy shoes because of "push off" issues is more likely to cause problems - with the rotating foot getting stuck and twisting knees.

Unless a character would have a reason for wearing different shoes, then I would recommend refining a technique that enables jugglers to avoid knee injury caused by jarring.

Orinoco - - Parent

You use a surprising amount of stomach muscles to generate rotation, with some shoulder (but more stomach than people realise).

Specifically your internal & external oblique abdominal muscles. So standard sit ups won't help.

Orinoco - - Parent

If you are doing a lot of 360s then less grippy shoes are a better option.

I think most people have the same instinct that more grip = more force to launch the spin = better spins. However, if you spin with a grippy soled shoe it puts a rotational stress on your knee which is a major cause for knee operations among salsa dancers. This is why you won't find many grippy dance shoes. The other way of looking at the problem is: Reducing friction = less force required to spin = better spins.

I'm convinced that the reason why jugglers who wear trainers get better at 360s is because they gradually wear away the grip from the one foot they consistently spin on.

I started getting problems with my knees due to dancing so I started wearing these Cotton soled kung fu shoes. It took a while to adjust but it has definitely made things easier & I won't be going back.

Ethan - - Parent

Yes, I would agree.

The main problem is that the foot that is kicking off the spin does not have enough grip. Which means that there is ultimately not enough force generated to create multiple fast and clean spins.

Those cotton soled shoes look very comfortable!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Hi Ethan, @ all - would it make sense to wear two different shoes (L+R), one for pushing \kicking off, and one for the stance foot turning, maybe? Or have a rubber cap for the pushing foot ( that you can slip over when needed and take off when not anymore ) ? (don't they have it in bowling?)

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

Ofek Snir is notorious for his super fast spins (7-up 1080!) and he wears a sock on his spinning foot and goes barefoot on his other. Not often appropriate for performing, but he pulled it off in "Sock It".

7b_wizard - - Parent

Ah, okay. Impressing! .. I'd still go with what Dee said above - sounds profund and very plausible. ( So Ofek is maybe an exeption to the rule, with maybe his own technique perfectionned, or maybe evn bluntly doing it wrong and overstressing his anatomy on the long run )

Btw., I myself get dizzy after a one stage 540° turn lol and try it only rarely.

Scott Seltzer - - links to the Edge. The video is nice, too.

barnesy - - Parent

Nice. I wouldn't like to question Alex Barron's abilities, but I wonder if that 25 near the end was meant to be a 15? Perhaps not, I dunno!

Orinoco - - Parent

Jack Kalvan's original paper stated the average was 16 & the highest was 24 so Alex's 25 seems legit.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Cool article! I'm looking forward to Jack's book now!

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Nice video too:

peterbone - - Parent

I actually misquoted myself in my post that's linked to in the article. The original quote in the IJDB article is "Finally, Peter agrees with Ben Beever in his belief that someone will flash 14 balls someday but not 15."

I've always been careful to not say that I think that 15 is impossible, but made one lapse which happens to have been picked up in the Wired article.

7b_wizard - - Parent

I have nothing to lose - I can say it, so here we go:

15 balls is im-poss-si-ble.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

16 balls will be flashed but not 17

Guili - - Parent

sounds like a prophecy... haha

but I think mankind has an ability to overcome seemingly impossible obstacles... regardless of the price to itself, others, the earth, etc...

so, one day, what was impossible, is not anymore :)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Perhaps many 'impossibilities' are overcome able, if the incentive is high enough... With the amount of money and organization that goes into football, I'm sure jugglers could reach an unimaginably high skill level. But is it likely that juggling will ever be that high on the list for future societies?

I suppose that's the bottleneck, people don't care enough.. I recon any young person who really wants to can learn to flash 11 balls, yet only a couple dozen people have done so..

Guili - - Parent

agreed. and juggling could hardly get as big as a bussiness like football is.
but we jugglers also have obsession and stubborness helping us :)
with the way it's been spread around the world maybe it's just waiting for the next boy-genius.

Cedric Lackpot -

Why do clowns have squirty flowers? Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal knows.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I really like this one:

Mats1 - - Parent

Funny stuff. ^^

Orinoco -

Just your basic ballet, contemporary dance, acro, capoeira, clown, slapstick routine

It's a bit bizarre & honestly I think half of you will hate it, but I really enjoyed this piece. I think there is a lot of originality here.

If nothing else watch the move at 5:58.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

That was fun :)

mike.armstrong - - Parent

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JonPeat - - Parent

I also really enjoyed the video.

But I also really enjoyed Mike's thumbs up!

mike.armstrong - - Parent

Thanks Jon. It was mostly for Orin's "benefit", but I'm glad to know that it was appreciated!

lukeburrage - - Parent

Why do you think anyone would hate that?

Orinoco - - Parent

Well, there it is 9 minutes long, there is no toss juggling involved & it is very experimental compared to mainstream circus acts.

Now that I've used the word experimental I'm wondering when an experiment is deemed a success when it comes to circus/theatre which is something I've never thought about before. Probably when it gets copied by others!

lukeburrage - - Parent

To me, this isn't very experimental. It's a fun dance/acro/dance routine, and while it has an interesting mix of styles of body movement I've not personally seen before, it isn't really pushing the boundaries of contemporary circus. Compared to traditional circus, sure, if that's what you mean by "mainstream", but this, to me, is very much in the mainstream of contemporary circus.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

What does experimental mean?

It's definitely beyond the stage of experiment, they know very well that the stuff they do on stage will "work". But a lot of the moves are original, and their relationship not easily definable... But then again that is the case in a lot of contemporary acro shows.

AnnaBod - - Parent

I loved it, the first bit looks like it is played backwards! Very cool.

(Thanks to Sadie, who knew I'd like it and sent it to me in a message)

Squibly - - Parent

I should have known you were omniscient in the world of juggling and would have seen it on here without my help. There are just so many of us lurking in the shadows on the Edge.

It's Him -

Walking Globe trick ideas requested

Most of you will remember that I asked for ideas for tricks on the walking globe a while ago. For those people who watched BYJOTY this year you will have seen some of where that has led. Bearing this list of tricks that I will post below in mind, what other ideas can people suggest? You will gain my thanks for any usable ideas which aren't just perform (Other prop) on walking globe.


Tricks in show:

Leap mount of walking globe (other mounts are available)

Jumping between two walking globes

Passing two hoops around the body in opposite directions

Skipping/Backwards Skipping/Crossed-Arms skipping on globe

Double skip dismount

Mounting a spinning globe and then staying on it by a) moving feet and b) not moving feet

Walking on two globes at one time

Performing a 1up 180 whilst on two globes

Under the leg juggle whilst on two globes

Turning 4 ball half shower whilst on globe

5 ball multiplex followed by 5 ball flash on two globes.

Tricks not in show but done elsewhere

Frog balance on globe

skipping whilst on 2 globes

jumping onto 2 spinning globes

no handed standing to sitting to standing

collecting 3 ball from floor whilst sitting (standing tried and not close)

one footed stand on globe (very difficult)

2 person 1 globe facing same way, facing each other and with one person turning

3 person 1 globe

4 person 1 globe (so far only for a few seconds)

moving globe by jumping

lying flat on globe

forward roll over globe

probably a bunch more I've forgotten

Orinoco - - Parent

I'd like to see someone do a pommel horse circle on a walking globe

7b_wizard - - Parent

Is it maybe possible to use it like a trampoline and to slightly jump and fall into sit-jump back to stance?

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Ouch. I think you're confusing walking globes with those Swiss inflatable aerobic balls... You'll find that walking globes are incredibly hard and sturdy, one would not want to fall with their buttocks on those...

7b_wizard - - Parent

ah 'kay.

Mïark - - Parent

Handstand with each hand on a different walking globe, as seen at Manchester BJC (photo on page 3 of The Catch magazine)

It's Him - - Parent

From the hand positions this looks faked, as in the globes would roll away if they weren't stuck in a hole. However handstand on a walking should be possible (and eventually two globes) just possibly not by Peter.

Thanks Miark.


Buck Rudder - - Parent

Just seen this wonderful act the other day

It's Him - - Parent

Really nice little act. I enjoyed that and whilst I think I've seen virtually all the walking globe skills in other acts it's good to see them all put together well.


It's Him -

BJC2018 – A review

This review is my personal thoughts of the last few days and may be idiosyncratic.


We arrived in two cars as my car had two walking globes init as well as part of an aerial rig and therefore only the front two seats were useable. By the time we had set up the caravan and oldest sons tent (which he pitched about as far from us as was possible), it was time to eat. Then I played the yearly game of find the water point (why is it never marked on the maps?). Eventually we were all sorted and we looked around the site, chatting to friends as we went. At some point we went to the gym and Peter did an hours practice (added a time waster move with two globes) which like many of the practices at BJC had Peter struggle with the 1 up 180 with 3 balls, whilst stood on two globes. He could run it fine when not running the whole act. As soon as the music started and he tried it two minutes in to the routine it became much harder. After that we did a bit more chatting before an early night.


After breakfast we did another hour practice with Peter(changed 4 ball on one globe with an under the leg throw to 3 ball, 2 globe and under the leg throw). After that I went to add a workshop to the board (walking globe, naturally) and the fire alarm went off. No idea what set that off but at least it was a one off. At some point during the day Jamie Fletcher appeared with my new toy, a red and yellow Salerno ring. I haven’t had a lot of success with it as yet but should have plenty of practice time and space in the near future to improve. Spoke briefly to Clare about BYJOTY to learn that only 3 had entered to that point. Spoke shortly afterwards to Christopher and suggest that he practice the act that he had performed the month before and then enter BYJOTY. He is one of the students at Concrete Circus and whilst it is an act in development, the experience and feedback from BYJOTY would be good for him.Various chatting and food happened until the start of the Spinning@ show.

For me the first half was basically filler. Whilst there was some good technical skill most of the acts were too long or too repetitive. The best of them was the rope dart but that act could have been shortened and maybe some of the tricks could have gone above the audiences head. Of the other acts,the only comment I’m going to make is since when has clearing up after yourself been an act?

Our friends the Kelsalls arrived during the interval which pleased my daughter particularly (and us as well as we then didn’t have to explain the compere to her) and they got to see a really good second half. Starting with Ben Cornish. Ben was having a bad time with one trick but his performing experience showed through. We also had a really nice Bar Flair routine by Sam, a pleasing, smooth and aesthetic hoop routine by Alice, a very competent (and much improved since I last saw it) hulahoop act from Lisa and Callum and for me the stand out act in the show the cigar box routine by Luke? Cigar box routines are rare anyway but to show great skills with 3, 4 and 5 boxes made it much better. The final part of the act was a standard made better by music that worked well (even though the music was for the next act, which didn’t help them I’m sure).

After the show chatting happened and then I retrieved my juggling case from the sports hall, where it had sat for a day. I did some passing with my sons, including some feeding and switching who was feeding.Considering that Peter hadn’t done two count club passing before that evening,that was a great improvement.


Again we started with an hour practice with Peter (changed the skipping part to have two jumps rather than one). After that some more chatting happened before I attended Euaun’s combat workshop. That was good fun and the only workshop I attended other than the walking globe workshop that happened immediately afterwards. I was impressed with the turn out to the workshop as there must have been about 25 who attended. I worked with the beginners, many of whom learnt to walk on the globe, whilst Peter worked with those who were more advanced. Nobody was killed or seriously injured which counts as a result in my books and actually quite a few people came up to thank me afterwards and it wouldn’t surprise me if Lancaster University juggling group buys a globe.

At some point in the afternoon I played the one game I played all convention. I don’t remember its name.

The show in the evening was the Open Stage. Devil Stick Peet compered and did a small act between each act which meant he now dominates the show in my head. Other acts that impressed were (in no particular order) Antonia and Keith with their passing poi (I liked the characterisation), The odd ball juggling person (Daniel?), the professional looking poi double act and the duo acrobalance. There were other acts and none of them were bad, I just can’t remember them at this time.

I did a bit more juggling and passing afterwards and thus this became the convention I have done most juggling at for a few years.


Up early again for another practice session with Peter(added 5 ball multiplex on 2 globes). After that I generally chatted although I did meet up with Barbara at some point to discuss aerial rig bags. We had the debate of going on the bus or driving to Margate and went for the bus. Arriving at Dreamland (so called because that is where dreams go to die?) we hung around and watched some of the games. I took part in the balloon dog making one although felt hampered because I felt obliged to pick up the pump and then it got in the way when I was blowing up the balloon with my mouth. David did creditably well in the unicycle gladiators before being taken off his unicycle by someone hugging him and then suiciding. Shortly after that we left Dreamland(with its hall with more hole than roof) and went across the road to the beach and promenade. We stopped for a while at a large set of steps where David proved that he can bunny hop and Olivia Kelsall showed that she is an up and coming artist. We chatted to one of the local families and tried to convince them to watch the show later. Our evening meal was pizza at a sea front restaurant. The door to the place was particularly difficult to open and as we sat outside the restaurant eating we gained much amusement as other people(including staff) struggled to get in and out. After eating and walking closer to the show venue we also had an ice cream and eventually reached the venue before the vast majority of jugglers but only just. This did allow us to have seats in the centre of the theatre.

For me the show felt very safe. By which I mean that most of the acts were well known and had appeared in the BJC gala show before. Jon Udry was slick and his dry humour works for me. Ben had an interesting and novel act, perhaps not quite enough juggling for me but still enough to keep it interesting. Jan Himself was very professional in an almost predictably weird way. Paul Zenon’s magic routine had a lot of standard tricks which were all well presented. The end of his routine I thought was a somewhat bizarre staged event at first but apparently that wasn’t the case and one of the stage hands took it upon herself to interrupt his act. I hope someone apologised to Paul afterwards. The second half was equally skilled. Loz because performed a routine which was both well choreographed and well programmed, I always think that glow props take a little bit away from the performer and their skills but Loz was visible enough that we could see much of her tricks. Helena Berry has an act that isn’t very forgiving and the drops grew more towards the end but this didn’t take away from the act which was original and skilful. The Berlin Passing Girls did a great choreographed act and probably inspired the girls in the audience into believing they should juggle more. Steve Rawlings has been in at least 3 other BJC gala shows and is always a crowd favourite. For me the highlight of his act was the bit that I haven’t seen before with the mouth stick bottle and balloon. Matthew Tiffany as compere did a great job as compere and introduced a song that is fairly hard to sing if you have all the words written out in front of you.

On the way back from the show I learned that if Steve Rawlings does his knife gag in a show and you are 3 then you will still remember it 9.5 years later.


Guess what, we started the day with another practice session(changed the skipping so there was a slick turn before the second jump). After that I had a long conversation with Jonathan the Jester and probably chatted with others. After lunch I visited the traders with my daughter who needed anew peddle for her unicycle. Roger managed to sell her an upgraded set of peddles (pink) but not a new tyre (also pink) just because she had a pink unicycle stem and was wearing a pink cardigan doesn’t mean that she is obsessed with the colour. 2pm was tech rehearsal for BYJOTY so we all went over there. Originally there were going to be 8 acts but one of them was clearly not ready and will probably do a better job next year. After watching the tech run I thought that it would be very close indeed between 3 acts, the two twenty year olds and my 14 year old son. It turned out that I was correct. If you congratulated Peter and he didn’t say anything back to you it wasn’t because of you. For someone who is happy to stand up in front of people performing he isn’t great at conversation. After that we treated Peter to a meal of his choice, so we ended up going to Pizza Hut.


It's Him - - Parent


We didn’t do an hour of walking globe practice. Instead we slowly packed away and said our goodbyes. Peter bought some balls from Oddballs with his voucher forgetting a silver medal. Eventually we left for the journey home. Around about J30 my car engine started making funny noises and got gradually worse so I pulled over just before J28. Fortunately one of the Milton Keynes jugglers saw us and took Peter home (the other 3 were in the other car). I got to play the very slow game of waiting for Mr AA Man and eventually got home some 9.5 hours later. A sad end to an otherwise great BJC.

It's Him - - Parent

I noticed that in this review I forgot to thank all the people who made BJC happen. You are all wonderful people and I enjoy spending time with you each year.


Daniel Simu - - Parent

Yes, the odd ball juggling person on the open stage was me :)

It's Him - - Parent

I enjoyed the act. I generally enjoy acts that have characterisation and have been thought through and yours met both those criteria.


Daniel Simu - - Parent

Thank you, I'm glad to hear that :D

The Void - - Parent


Jonathan The Jester - - Parent

I have to say how Impressed I was with BYJOTY, esp the astounding walking globe. I have not been that gobsmacked since Sam Goodburn wheel walked his uni. Very very good stuff. As always it was great to catch up with Nigel.

JonPeat - - Parent

Nice review Nigel!

Pssssst Orinoco... you aren't waiting for me really, are you? Mine is going to be a good few days yet at least...

Orinoco - - Parent

Nope, I am working on it but I've only got up to Thursday so far...

Monte - - Parent

Cold showers, cold bed but great new Bristol backdrop mug.

JonPeat - - Parent

Hi Everyone,

I also went to the BJC in Canterbury and wrote about my experiences!

Check out all of the action here:


Cheers, Jon

p.s I enjoy reading other peoples reviews and experiences, add to the discussion with your own mini reviews!

peterbone - - Parent

Interesting that you tried to attend the preventing injury workshop. Frederique and myself were the only ones there unfortunately. Ben did it anyway and we found it useful and informative.

JonPeat - - Parent

I am very surprised that so few people went along.

Fortunately (or unfortunately...) any injuries I recieve which prevent me from juggling are normally due to things outside of juggling (cycling accidents, mis-handling of tools etc...) or avoidable impacts from juggling combat.

I was very interested to hear what Ben said and would definately go if the chance came up again. It just didn't work out for me this time.

Orinoco - - Parent

Ejuggle appears to be down at the moment :(

I'm hoping to finish my effort this evening (probably late evening).

Mïark - - Parent

I did wonder if was just not working for me, or if Jon had broken it.

jamesfrancis - - Parent

Thanks Jon, as always I really enjoyed that.

Very interesting to see how you always have a completely different juggling experience to me: a rare attendant to shows or workshops and a frequent attendant at the lazy juggler bar!

My main thoughts / feedback / witty or non witty repartee in no particular order or coherency are as follows:
- Margate had excellent fish and chips away from the main strip. We skipped dreamland and the games completely and played adventure golf (curse you Andy Fraser for taking my title) and really enjoyed our day out and nearby Fish.
- I really enjoyed the gala show but thought too many of the acts were a little similar. It was probably the least balanced gala show I had seen for a while. I love Tiff, Jon and Steve, but all in one show with a talking magician and a talking Ben was a lot of wordy performances. Helena was really quite good though.
- Was the stage hand who interrupted Paul Zenon really not a poor acting planned part of the act? we couldn't tell
- Monte food = excellent. Much better when he has a full kitchen and helpers to work with. Rarely needed to leave site for sustenance other than drinkable water
- Lack of flushable one point I think there were only 2 working on site. Thank goodness the portaloos turned up
- Waffles are not an acceptable breakfast. Why can we not get decent coffee anywhere ever at a BJC?
- Played two long games of Suburbia and Stone age with Brook, Cameron and Danny. Stone age seemed to be more popular. Also played a bit of seven wonders duel with various people. This is my latest favorite two player game of choice. Also Danny needs banning from all board games on account of being too good.
- Generally the organisation was a little lax. The volunteer board didn't seem to exist and on inquiring how I could help I was told 'go and see if anyone is on badge control now and you can fill in'. Well I did and a couple of hours later I was lucky to be replaced as the person after me had no relief after 2 hours. A simple printed schedule people can sign up to is so much easier.
- Sebs workshop on 3 in one hand scissor manipulations was great
- I felt really sorry for the unicycle hockey guys for pushing my patience. The Scheduling as you mentioned was awful but it wasn't their fault and I was temporarily very angry until I thought about this
- Love being able to drive to BJCs and bring my double duvet to camp with. Feel like a big southern pansy, but no regrets!
- I need to pass more with different people. I did no > 2 person passing other than 'Spider' and mostly passed with the same people. Made some progress on Funky 9 though. Also amazed at the number of people who can now acceptably run Holy Grail. A few years back this was a pipe dream and now it seems almost common. Need to regress a few years, quit my job and move to Cambridge to keep up.


The Void - - Parent

"- Waffles are not an acceptable breakfast. Why can we not get decent coffee anywhere ever at a BJC?"
From which conjunction I conclude that you think decent coffee is an acceptable breakfast. I agree, but enjoyed a couple of veggie Full Montes in the week too. Seeing Bob Fromcanada around made me miss his great coffee stall that was at EJC.

Monte - - Parent

I have never understood why people for whom coffee is so important cannot bring along the means to provide their own. SMH

jamesfrancis - - Parent

I could... but given my campsite was at least 5 minutes walk from the main communal / juggling area, and that I would have to whip out a camp stove, boil my own water and bring my own fancy cafetiere in the first place this seems a rather extravagant means to an end.

Much easier to rant on the internet than self provide a simple practical solution. That being said I am sure there is a commercial opportunity there given the success of EJC ventures.

John R - - Parent

I could being the Leeds convention filter machine along, but it’s not PATed so insurance mght be an issue...

John R - - Parent

I do, thanks! Aeropress and hand grinder. But there is a bootstrap problem in that some people - not me, cough cough - need a coffee before they can be organised enough to make coffee.

JonPeat - - Parent

Nice mini review, I think I spotted you juggling in the hall a couple of times during the week...

I would be up for a game of Duel sometime, great game!

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