Can we challenge the state of circus videos?

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momo -

Can we challenge the state of circus videos?

Today most circus videos are short ones that are being shared on instagram. Some 3-5 minute content will be posted at youtube. Finding good videos online is really difficult, when you do not want to have an instagram account. There was juggling.tv which had categories for circus diciplines. I think that was the best thing we ever had. You did not need an account to a service, you could easily find the stuff you are interested in.

- Can we as a community host our own video platform again?

- What would the hosting and traffic cost? Could we afford it?

- What amount of work would go into it?

The Void - - Parent

A Peertube instance would probably work, with approved signups. It would need someone(s) with enough tech knowledge to set it up and maintain it. I haven’t looked in to the costs.

momo - - Parent

I guess peertube could be something to make it work faster. I liked #jtv as it was searchable. Searching the fediverse is more difficult imho. I like that people could interact via peertube with mastodon or pixelfed. OTOH barely anyone from the circus scene is present in the fediverse.

The Void - - Parent

Well, you wanted to challenge the state. :-) SepiaSearch is a very new search engine for searching Peertube videos:
https://sepiasearch.org/

momo - - Parent

I did want to raise motivation and awareness in the subject in the circus scene. But not many responded yet.

5balls - - Parent

I'm interested in the topic (as I'm interested in building up decentralized server infrastructure for the juggling community), but I've hesitated exactly in this area, as hosting videos is probably technically quite challenging. I see the need for it though and would be willing to run some tests if I find some time (which is another constraint currently).

momo - - Parent

I am restricted until the end of November. But it would be great to have some exchange. Best would be at a convention. EJC was just 7 weeks ago, that would have been perfect for such a discussion. I am not sure whether I can get to Nuremberg Convention this year but I registered. Maybe we could try to have a chat there?

5balls - - Parent

Sounds great! Indeed I thought about discussing it on the EJC but I was too lazy :). I will be at the registration desk of the Tübingen Convention from thursday on and at the convention in Neuss the following weekend (where I will be more relaxed as I'm not organizing it :D). I also plan to go to Hamburg and Nürnberg probably as well even though maybe for both not the whole time, i have to see about my remaining vacation days.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

I think the hosting costs was the main reason for Juggling TV shutting down?

Video playback uses a lot of bandwidth, which is costly. Also uploading videos uses a lot of CPU power to convert them to the correct format.

My only experience here is when Luke Burrage used to host a very popular selection of juggling videos on his website. He let the site lapse, but with his permission I mirrored the content on my website. But sadly within 3-4 months the traffic to my mirrored site was so great that it was burning through my monthly traffic allowance within days, and I reluctantly had to take it down again :-(

I think a centralised video platform would either need sponsorship (like Juggling TV) or advertising (like YouTube) just to pay for the extensive hosting costs.

Maybe a decentralised platform (like Void suggested) could make it work? I am not experienced with such platforms though.

7b_wizard - - Parent

the traffic to my mirrored site was so great
idk, Could it be that crawler bots caused this amount of datatransfer?
In that case, maybe incorporating a captcha, before even allowing to browse, could notably reduce costs.

momo - - Parent

Thanks for your input!

I would think that sponsors would be necessary. Like people in the community who have money spare and would like to support it plus organizations like the IJA and EJA come in mind to me. Maybe as well shops who sell probs.

It should be a platform from the circus scene for the circus scene imho.

Technically I might be wrong but nowadays people watch videos only on phones and computers. Transcoding could be limited to 2 sizes/formats.

5balls - - Parent

As a side remark, Daniel Simiu ran a webpage which had a curated selection of videos for some time (he shut it down). I think a webpage like that could maybe fill the need to find good content categorized, but someone would have to do it (and it wouldn't solve the dependency on commercial platforms (like youtube) problem which I also find problematic but maybe this is not your primary concern?).

5balls - - Parent

Daniel Simu, sorry

 

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