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Sergei -

3 ball Shower for old mentally retarded beginner. Just made 10 catches dominant hand Shower. It was pure luck. Left hand only preliminary exercise - two throws left hand + right hand pass and total mess. Any ideas how to learn and improve Shower ? as I understand it is probably intermediate level trick.

The Void - - Parent

Think of it as
Throw,
Throw & zip,
Throw & zip,
Throw & zip,
etc.
Also, try to hold the zipping hand a little higher than the throwing hand. It's easier to zip/pass the ball slightly *downwards* than straight across or upwards.

Sergei - - Parent

Thanks for advice. Is it possible to make it geometrically more like a correct CIRCLE ?

The Void - - Parent

Personally, I think of it as an isoceles triangle. If you want to be more circular, hold your hands further apart. But that will make the zips more difficult. Experiment!

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

Nice and solid two ball version before you progress to three. Keep the two throws (zip throw and up throw) roughly the same distance ie *don't pass the 'zipped' ball* - throw it horizontally with some force. Keep your hands apart and as still as possible (then the next pattern (box) will be much easier.

Sergei - - Parent

Thanks for your advice. Yes, I am already looking forward for Box and already practice 2 ball exercise for the Box. My humble guess it is also good for Shower

7b_wizard - - Parent

There is also the "half-shower" (with 3 balls): ___ you throw only outside throws with one hand on its side (rather with stronghand), and only inside throws with the other hand on the other side. The siteswap for that is then not 51, but ``regular┬┤┬┤ 3. The outside throws a bit higher and the inside throws a bit lower, then ( for the higher balls to pass well over the top and not get any collisions ). Then looks a bit more like a half-circle too, but essentially feels notably slower.

7b_wizard - - Parent

.. it's a bit like juggler's tennis, but all tennis throws, every second throw, and only those, now to the same side. ( like a tennis-ball-feeding-machine. if you want. :o| )

Sergei - - Parent

You can not even imagine how I love Half-Shower !
Worked very seriously on this pattern, but it was non-reciprocal love ))) So I shifted to preliminary exercises for full Shower, more difficult pattern, with hope that new skills will be useful for my beloved HS ))) Funny that I possibly will learn Shower BEFORE HS )))

Monte - - Parent

I learned shower before cascade, I also do 4 clubs in singles and never learned it in doubles. Not sure if it matters what order you learn things at first. Just enjoy your progression.

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

I think some order, at first, is important. Better to learn cascade first. It's easier so more likely not give up. Shower should be learned in both directions. Shower and cascade are quite different motor skills. The half shower is a kind of lazy shower (sometimes called lazy shower I think). It caused me bad habits and the real shower and box were more difficult than they needed to be.

Sergei - - Parent

tried half-shower today after abstaining for a week and attempts to learn full shower. I feel HS goes better now. My humble goal is to have stable 10 cycles HS (20 catches?) both hands. It is really nice pattern ))

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

Slightly off topic - I remember you mentioning you were practicing the reverse cascade. Have you tried the RC with arms crossed? Keep them crossed, left hand doing the job of the right hand, right hand doing the job of the left. If you can juggle RC it's much easier than you think and it looks far more difficult than it is. Just takes a little while for your brain to realise it's the same as RC but the hands are swapped position and then it 'clicks'.

Sergei - - Parent

yes, reverse cascade for me is more easy than normal cascade )) but to do it crossed arms ??? I am not sure I am ready for this witchcraft )))

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

There's a momentary 'crosswires' in your brain when you first try but very quickly you can do it, if you can already do RC. Just jump straight in with three balls. Try to do three throws first. Your brain will make sense of it quickly. It's a good 'quick fix' when you're learning things that might take a little longer.. like shower/s and box.

Sergei - - Parent

Thanks. I guess I ought to try it just to make some middle level brain injury )) need to look for step by step tutorial on Net

Sergei - - Parent

Just created exercise # 1 for crossed arm cascade : arms crossed with 2 balls in one hand tossing "one-two" into the empty hand/ Hope it is not idiotic idea ))

 

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