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Orinoco -

Don't worry Kev, yes I did manage to get there early & unlock before anyone else turned up! I spent most of my juggling time passing with Jo who is currently on tour from NZ. During conversation she brought up a couple of interesting insights from sales figures from her juggling store. Such as PX3s being a fad, clubs like Henry's have a broadly flat turnover, but PX3s appear to be going through a spike similar to Radical Fish a few years ago. & the average 'lifespan' of a juggler is 5-6 years, I'm most sceptical about this last one, I think jugglers go through a phase of buying every prop in existence, then calm down when they realise that more equipment doesn't make you a better juggler. We were also joined by The Lovely Helen who we haven't seen for ages mostly due to her being busy starting up her new business. Mr K & I amazed ourselves with still being able to do various takeouty things. While rocking out to 90s sensations Britney Spears & B*Witched Chris & I tried to fathom out the musical tastes of the youth of today via Archie, which was a struggle because he claims not to really listen to music. While I'm certainly not one to abuse my Page Rank I'd like to say that Archie is a raging One Direction fan.


Topper - - Parent

Sounds like I missed a good evening.

I was busy entering Roses in our village Rose show. I entered 10 classes winning 4 firsts, 6 seconds and 2 cups for best in class.

Orinoco - - Parent

Sounds like a nice haul, well done! Are you sure they were all real roses this year?

Little Paul - - Parent

The average 'lifespan' of a juggler is 5-6 years, I'm most sceptical about this last one, I think jugglers go through a phase of buying every prop in existence, then calm down when they realise that more equipment doesn't make you a better juggler.

I think I'm with you on this one. After 5-6 years most jugglers have worked out what they want from their equipment, have bought what they need, and then drop into "maintenance mode" where they're only replacing worn out kit.

Once you're in "maintenance mode" I think most jugglers[1] probably replace kit so rarely that they drop into the background noise in the sales figures.

OK, so I'm at one end of the extreme on this as the only juggling kit I've bought in the last 10 years was either second hand, or in the bargain bin at a fest (some Play jumbo rings, which are horrible, but adequate for making a Salerno ring out of) - but I think the norm is closer to my situation than it would be to say, Wes Pedens situation.

Talking of "musical tastes of the youth of today" I tried to get an answer on that out of my 21 year old niece recently, and got nowhere for what sounds like similar reasons. Music is so pervasive that she pretty much sees it as background noise and "doesn't really listen to music" as a result. She doesn't have any favourite bands, has never aligned her identity with a given genre, and doesn't have a particularly favourite type of nightclub as she goes clubbing to be with her friends rather than for the music.

I wonder how common that is. I know it's a complete contrast to when I was that age.

[1] I think it's probably fair to say the majority of jugglers aren't performers, and aren't numbers monsters who are hard on their kit

mrawa - - Parent

There are quite a lot of PX3's over in Vancouver. For a lot of the hobbyist jugglers it sounded like there's little knowledge of anything else. It doesn't help that there's no shop or obviously easy to use online store.

I think the 5-6 years is kind of a breaking point. If you get past that hurdle you'll juggle for life, otherwise it's just another hobby. I certainly gave up juggling after about 4yrs, then picked it up 2 years later, but only because it was the only social activity I could conceive doing in London at the time.

emilyw - - Parent

My musical tastes were narrow when I was a teenager, but I think that was out of cultural identification rather than real musical preferences. These days I also listen to and enjoy a huge variety of genres and don't identify strongly with any of them.

When I was a teenager, the primary way to find out about new music was from my friends and people I met at the genre specific nightclub, which would cause us all to converge on a common set of similar music. These days though, I learn about new music through the internet mostly, and listen to it predominantly on my own, so the cultural influence is completely different.

I noticed that if I'm working the sound desk for a show and I put on some background music while people are getting things together, older people will often express absolute shock at the music choice, based on an assumption that I have a strong personal genre identification with whatever I just put on.


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