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7b_wizard - - Parent

#logthread @ Mike Moore .. 6 c 5b-blind .. Wow! .. especially that juggled one, wow! .. Nirvana's just one step ahead for you now.

Mike Moore - - Parent

It's amazing what having a deadline can do! I've been able to flash 5b blind for a while, and have decided it's time to work up to a qualify.

7b_wizard - - Parent

#logthred @ JackJuggles .. Congrats on your nice breakthrough with 5 yesterday! .. "great session" .. "felt like average" .. "broke sound-barrier 50 catches" .. "lovely goal achieved" .. sound really nice & worthwhile envying a lot :o) [ <-- that's with round nose btw (not 'scream')]

7b_wizard - - Parent

@ Stephen - [ logentry, fitness plan

Impressingly elaborated and thought through. I have some ad hoc feedback and critique to offer:

- Meals, nutrition are to a degree individually different.

- How do you make sure, what makes you conclude that the "Strength"-part, the workout goes right into your juggling skills?
    Scooping well for example is one major aspect in getting your patterns smooth and stable, so I believe
    those small and big muscles that twist ulna and radius (of the forearm) around one another
    are important for juggling smoothly and stable (and without exhausting yourself in them becoming
    tensed). My credo for those is, that using somewhat heavier balls would train these best.
    Also, for enduring, it seems crucial to me, to have sudden ``explosive´´ bail-out-skills out of plan, for
    unstable moments in a running juggle, when correcting and recovering back into stable pattern. You then
    have to do a few throws from awkward ball positions in space.
    Also, for finetuning, for walking that thin line of a snapped-in pattern, having big and strong muscles
    doesn't seem to be the main thing to me.
    So, why is juggling cardio and makes extra cardio unnecessary, while strength needs extra training -
    doesn't juggling naturally just the same provide for muscle-strength exactly where it's needed, .. without
    extra training?
    [ I'm aware this is highly disputable, as many seem to approach juggling by strength. ]

- Do I get you right, that you think, stretching at the end of a stint is the right time for it; or is your list not chronologic?

- I, B.: intersection of skill and fitness is greatest possible ability. Also agility?

- I like the idea of jumping + juggling. Cool.

Stephen Meschke - - Parent

Just to be clear, I am making a video tutorial for the 2016 IJA video tutorial contest. The log entry is an outline for that video.

Nutrition is a big part of life. I only want to emphasize how important nutrition is for optimal training, and briefly go over a couple common mistakes like:
1. Eating sugar for energy during a long training session (better to eat complex carbs 2+ hours before)
2. If you plan a big training session, plan a recovery meal.

Strength does make juggling easier. Having a strong lower body is really helpful for 7b cascade, both during launches and recovering from a bad throw.

Juggling isn't strength training. Strength training occurs at high resistance with low repetition.

The list is not ordered. I do think that jugglers should warm up with dynamic movements, and do static stretches after training.

7b_wizard - - Parent

#logthread - @ Guili (struggling with 7b flashes) - starting to see a pattern

I have another idea: A big problem at that stage you're at right now, can be (dunno, if applies for you):

- throwing the last two-three throws very high -

.. this takes a lot of effort and long stretched beats .. --> you get in debt of time and you'll be late on catching ( or rethrowing ) the early balls.
I got over that timing issue by thinking of the next (re)throws, by thinking, there were more throws to do, and by not putting all my energy into "finishing" the flash with (way too) ``high enough´´ throws, but doing also those on good normal height and sparing energy for going on in hopefully a rhythm.
(( _ But this happens only when one launches on somewhat different heights, like, starting a bit lower, or when trying to gain time with higher last throws. Not, when one tries to launch all balls on a same height and in a stable beat (then having to cope with different weights and thrusts in full hands emptying ball by ball). _ So I don't know if it applies for you. _ ))

Other hints for flashing are:

- throwing a bit more from the middle, -

.. ``away´´ up from a vertical center line, will reduce the chance for balls \trajectories interfering --> you need less time for aiming or checking just thrown trajectories before throwing the next ball. ( just "up, slightly away from the middle", and nothing will happen up there that needs any special attention except always aiming this current now throw well )

Or being aware of a) spacing between the balls, b) timing of hand's movement, catch- and throw-moments, c) the alignment of the trajectories like all on a pearl chain.
Also overall geometry of the pattern \of your throws respectively, like is it wide enough, is it well in the front plane, is it symmetric as should.
.. being aware of all of such major \crucial properties of a pattern, then explicitly working on getting rid of any of those when bad.

Hope, this wasn' too much in one go. cheers and be the goddesses of flashing with you :oD

Guili - - Parent

Hi there 7b_wizard! Hope, this wasn' too much in one go haha, it was! but thanks for that!
i think i'm having EVERY problem you've described..haha!
you know, just out of instinct these days I was trying to make the pattern wider, like you said. It makes it easier for the balls to get away from your grasp, but it's truth you avoid them crashing into each other.
also, like you said, i'm having problems with the last throws. it's like i get nervous because the first throws are allready coming back, right? so you wanna make it quick and every ball flyes in a different direction...
so, how long did it take you to master it?
anyway.. i'm really stubborn, so i will not stop. some day you'll se my "i did it!" post too ;)
thanks for all the advice!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Yah, great! .. also be aware, that any problem, any bad property of pattern \posture \ado, that you detect while trying 7b, you can train just that issue with 5b more effectively, like, as preparation or when warming up anyway.

7b_wizard - - Parent

.. or amidst practise, as soon as you notice. ( It's fun and feelgood and makes you confident and motivates to get a 5b cascade variation down well - watch Daniel's most recent video!!! http://juggling.tv/16767 )

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Thanks for sharing this, I'm glad it's relevant already :)

Guili - - Parent

great video daniel! lot of control!
gonna try those moves ;)

Guili - - Parent

yeah, i've been working with 3,4 & 5 balls FOR the 7b, and i can see it's usefull.
today i tried throwing the balls "more from the center" like you told me, and it really made it easier! lot less crashes...
got a 7-catches round! :-D
really motivated for tomorrow!

7b_wizard - - Parent

@ Daniel - hey, 1b 02, 25 c - awesome! .. must have been hard for you as a juggler to not give in to the urge, a reflex to throw, flourish or active it. I couldn't do it without at least five mins of meditating before an' I'd still be biting my teeth °r'r'r'aaaangnrghhH°. Thanks for this very helpful coming-down exercise!

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I understand your sarcasm, it's not a hard trick usually.. But I would like to get some recognition for it as a speedjuggler, because I did those 25 cycles (I don't count the 0 as a catch) in just under 3 seconds!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Wow! [honestly] That. is. sooo. fast! .. I bet it's below the speed resolution of the human eye.

 

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