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WJF 8
WJF 8 on youtube, the full 2 hour broadcast. https://www.youtube.com/v/g77tV58MdFE
Scott Seltzer - - Parent #
The ezine is working on a report.
How many people went to wjf this year? DIdn't only 60 people go last year?
I don't really like the wjf, though they are good jugglers, but i saw on their fb page that they say:
"Soon after its inception, the term "technical juggling" was replaced with "WJF style juggling" as jugglers identified anything technically challenging in juggling with the WJF. The WJF also started a new generation of jugglers who spend a great deal of time connecting moves together where previously most jugglers only did one move at a time."
I think it's pretty arrogant of them to say that.
Does anybody actually call it wjf style juggling?
Little Paul - - Parent #
I'm guilty of calling the small subset of technical juggling which is rewarded by the WJF scoring system as "WJF style juggling"
Now that's not a style of juggling I myself enjoy either doing [1] or watching (but neither is ring manipulation, contact juggling or devilstick) but I'm quite happy that there is an outlet for those who do want that sort of thing.
I'm very interested to know how attendance at this years event went, and how well the pay-as-you-go idea panned out. If you can make a pay-as-you-go event in a convention centre work in the USA, well... lets just say that's exciting news!
Having spent a lot of time over the last 2 or 3 weeks watching gymnastics competitions, and having watched the video that started this thread (well, I say "watched" it was on while I was baking mince pies) - there are more parallels between the scoring system and format than I'd appreciated previously. [2]
In short, I'm glad they exist. They don't quite have the impact or influence in the juggling world that their press releases imply (let alone in the real world) but that's not a problem is it?
[1] Based purely on the quality of the haircuts alone, I'm not qualified...
[2] I'd also never twigged how close to the ESPN "house style" the WJF logo is either, but now that I have it makes a *lot* of sense
For me the logo is closer to Ultimate Fighting Championship[1]...that makes a lot of sense.
[1] although that and ESPN are almost identical.
I'm also really interested in the pay as you go model. Although after more thought there have been snippets of this at past BJCs - Anthony Gatto's masterclass at York & WJFUK in Nottingham 2007. Neither of which were particularly well attended (I think places at the Gatto masterclass might have been deliberately limited?). I think the BJC is the worst possible festival to trial a paid for sideshow because there are just so many other free options.
More importantly though, how did the mince pies come out?
and (if I remember right) was also how we paid him - his fee was the income from his masterclass; we paid for travel & accommodation.
Little Paul - - Parent #
mince pies were lovely, if a little unseasonal. Merry Christmas!
Little Paul - - Parent #
Oh, and the examples you mentioned don't quite match up with this years WJF model as they were pay-to-get-in as well as pay-for-extras. I think that probably had some impact on the demand for the extras ("I've already paid, I can't afford to pay again")
As I understand it, this years WJF was free to get in to most of the festival (juggling hall, prelim comps etc) but you had to pay if you wanted to attend the dinner and the ESPN filmed finals. I assume they've managed to pull this off mainly by being sponsored by a jewlers (which is presumably only possible because of the TV coverage)
As Lorri said, Gattos BJC masterclass was fully booked[1] and used to offset the cost of getting him to come in the first place. I have a vague recolection of someone saying they could probably have sold it out twice over.
The WJFUK event at Nottingham was a bit of a disaster, but would probably have worked out a bit better attendance-wise with a slight shift in marketing[2] and from what I've seen the WJF has come a long way since then!
I think a better comparison would be a one-day fest which is free to get in to, but you have to pay to see the show. I'm sure I've been to a few of those over the years, but I can't quite pin down any by name.
Anyway, I'll be very interested to see if it worked well enough for them to try it again (or for certain other US fests to emulate the feat!)
[1] I did wonder at the time how many of those who attended were there to benefit their juggling, and how many were fanboys who were just there to say they'd met him ;-)
[2] And a huge shift in attitude from two of the reps!
Getting in to the realms of fuzzy memory here but I think you needed to be at a minimum (fairly decent) skill level to attend (or get the most out of) the masterclass. So there could well have been a lot of fanboys who were also there to benefit their juggling ;)
Found an archived page from the BJC2k website which is actually not that helpful - https://web.archive.org/web/20020112122114/https://www.bjc2k.york.ac.uk/plain/idp.shtml
Our tiny Keventions have been pay as you go (free but we had some meals out at the local pub). It worked very well for us! I certainly agree that the BJC examples are not a like for like comparison.
I can't find much in the way of details yet but a local news site said "100s of jugglers" attended, the Facebook event page shows 82 people marked themselves as attending (pinch of salt with that?). I'll look forward to the eZine report.
[2] Names! Names! Names!
Little Paul - - Parent #
I'm tempted to turn [2] into a competition/voting thread... but probably won't ;)
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