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7b_wizard -

Poll - Attitude drops versus perfection
[sry! .. messed it up .. should come as clickable poll now .. ]
Poll is about what 'types' of juggler we are. (Own practise. Not about watching others or performers drop).

  1. Drops are necessary - if not welcome inflicting gorgeous saves become part of the trick - when trying new things and being creative
  2. I don't mind drops - they're normal part of it all
  3. I practise both modes
  4. I mostly try to not drop, but U can't avoid 'em
  5. I (eschew &) avoid drops. I want it perfect (and the pattern mastered as it were part of my body).

thk 4 voting

This is a competition thread which ran from 29th Apr 2015 to 29th May 2015. View results.

7b_wizard - - Parent

See https://www.juggling.org/help/essays/boppo.html for reference too (where the structured text starts, " Two schools of thought about how to practice: ``performers´´ vs. ``hobbyists´´ " )

Mïark - - Parent

Is this drops when practising or drops in performance?

7b_wizard - - Parent

Own practise. Not watching others or performers do drops. It's about like the type of juggler we are.

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

Sorry to be difficult but I think I'm all or at least most of those. There's no progress without drops. I'd rather not drop if possible though!

7b_wizard - - Parent

wouldn't that fit into "3" then?

Mïark - - Parent

Did you set this thread as a competition? as I don't seem to be able to vote on it

7b_wizard - - Parent

sry 4 messing this up!
Managed the clickable version one post higher.
Please vote & answer there. thk
Thread closed!

Orinoco - - Parent

Threads merged!

7b_wizard - - Parent

@_Orinoco - great, thanks for such attentiveness ! :o]) .. ( I was indeed about to ask you either delete the messed up one or else manually set it competition or even else if I was to repost as i chose to do .. thx 4 fixing! )

@_those who get confused by thinking #drops are  n e v e r  wished, so options 2. to 4. of the #poll don't make a difference (which is by me nailing it all on "drops") .. simply read votes as (vote above, not here):
1 - I even like drops - it's horrible fun saving them with upto 7 contacts, waderollers included ;o])
2 - I really don't mind them, #fun is so big, I don't think about drops
3 - I practise both, free-style and perfection.
4 - Every drop is a fight lost - but alas! they're part of getting the pott
5 - I eschew drops. I just don't do 'drop'. I'm 100% on #perfection.

Marvin - - Parent

This poll has now ended. The results are:

  1.   Drops are necessary - if not welcome inflicting gorgeous saves become part of the trick - when trying new things and being creative (2 votes)
  2.   I don't mind drops - they're normal part of it all (4 votes)
  3.   I practise both modes (5 votes)
  4.   I mostly try to not drop, but U can't avoid 'em (1 vote)
  5.   I (eschew &) avoid drops. I want it perfect (and the pattern mastered as it were part of my body). (1 vote)

7b_wizard - - Parent

Thanks for voting! Thanks to Miark for results!
Guess it's me to comment (first) ..

Voted "1" 'cos rarely even trying the impossible (5b-blind; 9b-flash; [2T3456]; all-opened swiss-knife; 3b roll to ell + skip into cascade; stuff coming to my mind; .. ), there's no question botheraing about drops in any way. I mostly have many early fails, 'cos I'm mostly challenging ym limits. I am not the endurance type and cannot keep a 3b-cascade going like metronome 'cos I intuitively start varying &v body-throws &v do or think of sth new.   In fact, coping a lot with outbreakers even only led me to contact element(s) e.g. balls rolling back & forth along my underarm, penguining them or skipping them up again with handback (Or e.g. catching a ball with jaw to shoulder, or e.g. including kicks for saves) .. and that is where I originally judged "contact" "cool, but not my case to invest time in".. Thus - in my eyes or my development - contact is the consequence of dropping a lot / coping with many outbreakers / juggling a lot at all.   Trying everything to get my 7b running, though, lately, I started catching fails earlier to have a better training effect (more consecutive throwing, rather than collecting drops).

Maybe one can split point 3 to saying that 11 voters can do the "throw whatever happens"-mode, but also 7 voters can practice the "save my life not dropping on any account"-mode so to say .. the advantage of the latter should be juggling what you can rock-solid everywhere and anytime, depriving you of skipping practise time by not daring to try the possible. Going for the limits will give you gorgeous saves and short time fun on successes, you won't soon be able to reproduce. (ouffh! .. long post .. thk 4 reading lol)

7b_wizard - - Parent

OOUPS !   Xo([ .. Thank to MARVIN ! for the results. (sry for that!)

Marvin - - Parent

I'm used to it.

Mïark - - Parent

I am less used to being confused with a website bot.

The Void - - Parent

*droid.

7b_wizard - - Parent

So maybe to conclude we can say that the °let-loose-fun°-factor wins ..

 

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