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It's Him -

A totally biaised review of MKJC8

My role as part of MKJC has changed from main organiser to show booker so I was intending to actually see what happened at the convention this year. I did see a lot more but the day was more stressful than I had anticipated. Still it all turned out OK in the end.

On Friday evening I was running a quiz at the local museum, my mother who runs the tea shop at the museum had done the catering at the quiz and normally also does the scoring. During the day she had noticed that one of her fingers was getting larger and hotter, by half way through the quiz she needed to go to the local walk-in centre to have it looked at (my wife drove her there as she couldn't drive with the finger so swollen - it took 3 hours of waiting for them to spend less than 5 minutes looking at her and prescribing a course of anti-biotics - as of yesterday the swelling whilst somewhat reduced was still bad and painful). As a result of all this and getting in at 23:30 I didn't look at my emails until Saturday morning.

The first thing I noticed from my emails was one from our hat juggler, Georgie, saying that she had fallen down the stairs at work the day before and hurt her wrist and therefore wouldn't be in the show. This put us at 7 acts, only one of any length. That was possibly pushing it.

There wasn't a lot I could do at that point but get on with the things I had to do for the convention (which included bringing a large aerial rig and erecting it) due to various causes I finished that about 10:50 and then had to run a workshop at 11:00. I didn't have that many at my intermediate diabolo workshop but I think everyone who came learnt at least one new trick which is generally my aim. It was fun. I finished around 12:00 and went to see if any of my acts had arrived obviously bumping into a bunch of old friends along the way and so taking a while. I met up with Void who gave me a little run down on his kendama 6th dan achievement amongst other things. After a while I also met Matt the Devil-sticker who was sporting a couple of bruises around his eye and on his face. Apparently he had fallen off his bike about 4 days before and his whole left side was bruised. Obviously he wasn't going to be in the show. I was down to 6 acts. Fortunately I wasn't the main organiser, I could share the stress with Cory. After asking a few people Jonathan the Jester volunteered to help out and put on an act. He organised the whole act on the day and even bought the jacket at the event. He also helped run the games later on. He deserves a massive thank you from the whole team. He didn't deserve the flack he got from one attendee on a Facebook thread about what you liked and disliked about the convention (this message has since been deleted).

After lunch I gave Jamie Fletcher a whole bunch of rings that had been sitting in my garage for a while and he promised that he would get working on a Salerno ring for me. I then had to help take down the aerial rig. I did do a little bit of club juggling but it didn't last long as Greeny then appeared and I chatted to him. I also conversed with Kevin Fletcher who casually does great tricks on his unicycle and then protests it is nothing. I'm sorry but standing on one pedal on the side of the unicycle, hovering and then juggling back crosses is not nothing!

Sometime around three I met up with Jamie and Lizzie in the cafe and played three rounds of one game with them. I can't remember the name of the game but it has domino like tiles, all of which show types of land (wood, sea, plains etc) and some of which have crowns on them. That should be enough for someone else to identify it.

Around the start of the games I took the rig back to where it lives so that I could more easily fit everything else in my car later on ( I also had another rig and a sound system to transport but they were needed for the show). I got back in time to grab some pizza and then it was rehearsal time.

All the professional and experienced acts did their tech first and we slowly gathered up the 25 kids who were representing Concrete Circus this year. This is 10 more than the previous best. Their act comprised 6 sections which alternated between the slow and hopefully graceful with action sections. The rehearsal did not go well. At one point I learned that one of the sections of music we needed had been emailed to me that morning (after I had already left home) and as my phone has been discharging rapidly recently I had no power to get to my emails. This caused the sound man a lot of grief so well done Max who is only 13. The sound in the show may have had some problems but that was because we caused a number of them.

On to the show.

The compere Stevie Vegas is known to others as Steve Thomson. His routines were full of puns and he did a good job of working the audience.

First act as always was Concrete Circus, the act was titled 'Grace and Flavour' due to it's alternating nature. The first section was a 1,2 and 3 person aerial hoop piece that was well received. At the end of this we had to move the rig from the front of the stage and whilst we had rehearsed this we had used the stage manager as one of the people who was grabbing one of the legs. As he was trying to help with some of the sound problems we had caused he wasn't available so I had to ask a parent from out of the audience.

Second section was always going to be our most problematic as it involved 6 kids juggling and whilst mainly they weren't doing anything that difficult they don't tend to practice juggling for a sustained period but rather normally switch tricks fairly often so e.g. 2 minutes of club passing with people walking or cartwheeling through the pattern tends towards the droppy. The audience did get to witness a handspring 3 ball collect to juggle and our 11 year old juggler Max perform some of his longer routine including a finger fork catch, to under the leg throw to neck catch.

Third section was our s-staff and poi bit, this was much better co-ordinated than in practice. If anyone has tried to herd cats then you might try comparing it to getting kids to stay in time with each other.

Next we had the walking globe routine with 3 kids aged 9 or 10. They performed several tricks on the walking globe (only one out of order) and managed to finish in time with the music (which was 'In the hall of the Mountain King') which is really tough to do.

In the penultimate section we had 2 girls dancing on stilts. The music cut off just before the finish because of a misinterpreted cue but that didn't make much difference and as the dance stops with both girls sitting on the floor the audience got to witness getting up without the use of walls, helpers or anything other than skill.

The last section featured 8 unicyclists performing various tricks to 'The Dambusters March'. Just before the finish we have two sets of 4 unicyclists going round in tight circles (holding on to a small hoop). They then all change direction at the same time. Many in the audience may have heard me cheer as this worked perfectly. In practice it had worked a total of twice in more than 40 attempts.

Second act was Julia (Jules) Cormack-Cooke. This was an excellent staff routine performed to a spoken word piece. Everything about this piece was great and you can tell I really enjoyed it. Jules will be working with Performers Without Borders next year and as a fund raising measure she will be hosting two cabaret shows, one at the wonderful Up the Creek in Greenwich, on Monday November 27th, the other at Etcetera Theatre in Camden, on Wednesday 29th.

Closing the first half was The Void. He performed his club routine which includes many fakes, many silly faces and some great skills. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

During the interval the raffle was held. When I bought my wristband in the morning I hadn't been asked if I wanted raffle tickets but was instead just charged for them. At the time I thought it would have been nice to be asked. As it was I was extremely grateful as I won the first prize (An adult BJC ticket). I've already booked our places at the BJC but I'm sure I can either sell this on or claim the money back.

Starting the second half was Jonathan the Jester and some of Wessex Circus and friend. Jonathan told a short story about having his hair cut and how it impacted his son. This was one of the funniest stories I have ever heard him tell. He did his old routine of getting a kid to stand on his shoulder, then got a couple of his youngsters to do some acrobatics. He got a couple of older youths (Adam and Chris?) to pass clubs whilst on walking globes, finishing with him having Adam on his shoulders whilst they passed clubs. This put Adam about the height of the top of the stage curtain but he coped admirably. Many thanks again Jonathan.

Matt Green is known for many routines but not ring juggling which was what he performed. This was a really nice new routine which was nearly dropless. It started with six rings, dropped down to three and gradually built back to five. When his music ran out it restarted which Matt wasn't expecting but he coped admirably. A really good piece.

I first saw the Robot act performed by Brook and Becky at Leeds convention last year. I immediately asked Brook if he would like to perform it at MKJC. After getting Becky to agree they confirmed and it was exactly as good as I expected. Even though there were many more height issues than elsewhere. It isn't apparent to the audience that there are beams and light bars that go across the top of the stage and these get in the way. There are only a few places you can stand and not hit them and it is much harder for a passing act. I saw Becky recover at least one throw that had clearly hit something. The act as always combined high skill and comedy.

Finally or should that be finale was Matt Hennem. He performed his mime/dance contact routine. I haven't got tired of watching it and this is the third time I've seen it performed this year. We get a lot of people in the audience who don't go to other conventions and they were really wowed by it.

Can I thank everyone who took part in the show and everyone who ran the event especially Cory Bond. Even with the stress it was still the easiest MKJC for me of the lot.

Nigel

JonPeat - - Parent

Did you have any breakfast on Saturday morning?
What did you have for lunch?
What flavour pizza did you have in the evening?

Jokes aside, thank you for your review! ;-)
I was sorry to miss the convention (first MKJC I have missed) and it was lovely to read a run down of the days events.
Cheers, Jon

It's Him - - Parent

Missed breakfast. Lunch was a cheddar cheese sandwich, a peanut butter sandwich, a pack of stilton flavour cheddars and a rocky bar. Pizza was texas barbecue meat feast and was delicious.

Not sure whether I will make it to Leeds on Saturday yet.

A run down of the days events might have included other workshops and the games but I missed most of that. My wife, Tracey, ran a how to teach beginners juggling workshop and attended a lasso workshop and progressed to above the head. Other things happened of which I have no knowledge and which I will learn about over the next week or so. One review is never enough for an event but even one is better than nothing.

Nigel

The Void - - Parent

Cheers for the review, and the nice comment. Minor note: you seem to suggest Greeny was in the second half, but he was in the first half, after Jules.
Meanwhile, photos.... Wait, was that *you* with the bloody flash?!?!

It's Him - - Parent

As most of the photos are quite dark no flash was used for them but I did try and get the odd photo with flash so I had a picture for the DVD which you will get for free being in the show. I also was told to use flash at the very start so that we could sync all the video. I probably did annoy you with flash at some point but not often compared to the 30+ photos I have of you.

When I wrote the review I was struggling with sleep deprivation and couldn't remember which half Greeny was in. When looking at my photos it was obvious but you can't edit posts on JugglingEdge and I didn't actually say when he appeared but rather implied he was second half.

Nigel

It's Him -

So tomorrow is MKJC8. It looks like it might be fairly miserable driving there but that it will be brightening early afternoon and dry for the rest of the day/night.

The convention starts at 10 am with workshops starting at 11 am. I'm going to be running an intermediate old school one diabolo workshop that concentrates on knots and around the arm/leg moves. Anyone who is old enough will probably remember all these tricks but hopefully someone will get something from it.

The catering from previous years (apart from last year) will be back again.

Games will be at 4 pm and as I have read that Jon Peat will not be there this year other people have a chance at the endurance events.

The show will be approximately 7 pm - 9pm and the line-up (not in order) includes:

Matthew Green,

Concrete Circus,

The Void,

Georgie Price,

Jules Cooke,

Matt Hennem,

Brook and Becky

and Matt the Devil Sticker from Corby (sorry don't currently know his surname)

The compere would like to be known as Stevie Vegas.

I hope to see as many of you as possible and as I have very few things to do during the day I also hope to actually enjoy the convention.

Nigel

#MKJC8

The Void - - Parent

I had fun yesterday. Got there probably too early, but lots of time for chatting, mooching about and drinking coffee with friends. I even played a little kendama. It was good fun being in the show (thanks for the nice comments, those who gave them), and I really enjoyed seeing Brook & Becky's act that I'd heard good things of, and meeting up with my old friend Matt Hennem, and seeing him do his wiggly thing again. :-) Mucking about with Greeny in the curtain call was top silly fun too.
I was very confused by Matt asking me which day I'd arrived on. Apparently, if you're not careful, you can misconstrue "MKJC8 - 11th November" as "MJKC, 8-11 November". LOL.
Cheers to all the MKJC crew.
http://tlmb.net/galleries/MKJC2017/

It's Him - - Parent

Glad you enjoyed it. It was good to see your act again. When I go through my photos tomorrow I hope I will have got some of the faces you pulled in the show. it's a shame that we didn't have Jon Peat there to write a review I wonder if anyone else will do it.

Nigel

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

eJuggle happily posts fest reviews from others besides Jon. Be in touch with me to contribute to eJuggle.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Void pulls faces?

It's Him - - Parent

I put 3 photos on this page to give you an idea https://www.facebook.com/events/125838554740265/ I apologise for the quality of the photos, these are cropped from slightly less poor quality photos but I wasn't really concentrating on the photography as I only really wanted one photo per act for the DVD cover. As it is I didn't get one for Concrete Circus being peripherally involved with the act.

Nigel

7b_wizard - - Parent

Thank you for taking me serious.

It's Him - - Parent

I always take everything to do with The Void seriously! :-)

Nigel

7b_wizard -

What's the longest toss-juggling endurance you ever did?

(no matter which pattern, which prop)

  1. I don't really endure anything
  2. less than a minute
  3. between 1 and 3 min
  4. between 3 and 5 min
  5. between 5 and 10 min
  6. between 10 and 30 min
  7. between 30 min and 1 h
  8. between 1 and 4 h
  9. marathon, more than 4 h


I hope to find - if many of us vote - how popular or common enduring even is (and for how long).

This is a competition thread which ran from 9th Nov 2017 to 16th Nov 2017. View results.

It's Him - - Parent

About 25 years ago I worked for a juggling stall that had a competition which was to juggle 3 x 1.5 Kg Splats as long as possible. I think the winner was about 45 minutes. Shortly after that I tried to match that time with 3 x 1 Kg Absolutes. I matched it but killed my wrists doing it and suffered from tendonitis for quite a while. I'm not sure that endurance is necessarily the way to go but it made for an interesting competition.

Nigel

Daniel Simu - - Parent

What are Splats and Absolutes? I know Absolute rings but they are definitely not 1kg :p

The Void - - Parent

Big beanbags.

Ameron Rosvall - - Parent

Sounds very painful, can kinda relate, though what you did must have been worse. I did 3 beanbags with wrist weights for 1 hour once, beanbags were just 200g each and weights were 1.5kg each. Still very exhausting.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Longest endurances have been my worst dropless joggling races

Maria - - Parent

I did my longest endurance when I had only juggled for two years. It was 20 minutes of 3 clubs cascade. I'm not planning on doing any longer endurance of any pattern.

7b_wizard - - Parent

°oupps° .. a logical inconsistency in the poll again: ..ever did? versus 1. ..don't really now..

Please read ( 1. I don't really endure anything ) as "1. I never really endured anything."!

Maria - - Parent

That is how I understood it.
I was thinking, though... If you want to find out how popular endurance is, it might also be interesting to know if people are planning/hoping to achieve longer runs in the future, and how long. I have no desire to spend a lot of time trying to get as long runs as possible any more, but I would like to be able to do patterns for, like, 5 minutes or something. But I guess that wouldn't really count as endurance, it would more be about getting the pattern really solid.

7b_wizard - - Parent

I'm not planning to do anything longer than my 3b 12 minutes. Yes, especially for important basic patterns, 5 minutes is pretty much okay for me too. Yet, with 5 min x 60 sec x ~5~6 throws/sec = ~1,500 throws, that I got near to once only with 5 balls, I still don't feel like really having ``mastered´´ the pattern, it's far from ``like walking´´. So either I'll have to get more runs over 1,000 or indeed do many more throws and minutes. But it's sooo time intensive while learning tricks and other patterns instead is much more rewarding (and hard and challenging enough and worthwhile too).

Maria - - Parent

I have not been close to 5 minutes with any other pattern than 3 objects cascade yet. Could probably do it with a basic passing pattern with the right partner (6 clubs 4-count, 2-count or 3-count). Solo patterns... maybe 423 could work.
I'm definitely not even close with 4 objects, my personal record being just a little bit over 200 catches. But that might actually be a bit of an endurance thing, I do get tired when juggling 4 clubs. Arms starting to get tired before 100 catches, and my pulse is definitely high, too.

Yeah, it's more fun to learn new tricks and patterns than spending lots of time on the ones that already kind of works.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Mine was 12+ minutes of 3b cascade.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

2360c of 5b. that would be about 10m I suppose

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

1 - 3 minutes..

Marvin - - Parent

This poll has now ended. The results are:

  1.   I don't really endure anything (0 votes)
  2.   less than a minute (0 votes)
  3.   between 1 and 3 min (1 vote)
  4.   between 3 and 5 min (1 vote)
  5.   between 5 and 10 min (4 votes)
  6.   between 10 and 30 min (8 votes)
  7.   between 30 min and 1 h (6 votes)
  8.   between 1 and 4 h (2 votes)
  9.   marathon, more than 4 h (0 votes)

DavidCain -

I thought that there might be a number here who would find this article interesting.
https://www.juggle.org/birds-tree-trick/
David Cain

The Void - - Parent

At least one. Thanks.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Nice read, nice watch.

Little Paul - - Parent

Damn you. Now I have to learn that.

There goes the next year of my life

It's Him - - Parent

Learn it Paul so that I don't have to!

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

Race you

It's Him - - Parent

This is actually a project I think should be fairly doable. Let us set some criteria and we can certainly make this a race. How many birds being the first criteria, 5 like David or should we go for a more tree like structure? I can see that anything behind the balance would be a bugger to hit. Are we restricting size of weapon launcher? Is there any restrictions on weaponry? I was thinking of using nerf bullets as I have a bunch and they should be easy to use and safe for an audience. Anything else?

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

In my head, I'm making the structure out of PVC plumbing pipe, because it's cheap and easy to work with (and fairly easy to break down for storage/transport)

Details I've not worked out in my head:
* What to make the birds out of - David, I like the look of yours, what are they made from?
* How many to go for - 5 seems like it might be a nice number. 3 doesn't seem like enough, 7 seems like too many, even numbers are invalid
* Size of weapon launcher "don't take the piss" - if it's long enough that the end is only 1" away from the easiest bird that's too long.

In terms of ammunition, I'm not sure. I have access to plenty of nerf darts, but in my head it should be a proper "peashooter" - but then by the same measure it appears to be terribly difficult to obtain a traditional peashooter on amazon/ebay

The nerf solution would be more visual, safer, easier to clear up etc, so is probably more practical.

All in, it looks like a much easier trick to get a handle on than that damn candle trick.

It's Him - - Parent

I am looking at 4 ltr milk bottles as a suitable substance for the birds. I did like the ones David had but wasn't sure whether he just artistic or he found something suitable. I'm not sure whether to go for a thinner, wooden construction rather than pipe. I also need to spend a lot more time on a forehead balance as I normally chin balance. I'll see what I can cobble together and where that takes us. I'm thinking either Bath or BJC next year for the results to be shown. I will definitely be at BJC but Bath is dependant on work.

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

I’m a habitual chin/nose balancer (for everything other than the golf club trick obviously) so I think the forehead thing is going to need work too.

I went to juggling tonight for some forehead balance practice, and I’m so out of shape at the moment my knees started playing up.

It did strike me though, this is the ideal time of year to start working on this trick, what with fake trees being available at reasonably low cost in all the shops at the moment...

It's Him - - Parent

Yesterday I went to B&Q and picked up a tree for £4 and some of the cups that furniture coasters sit on (4 for £2.90). I now need to mutilate the tree and do some drilling as well as make some plastic birds. On Wednesday head balance practice was 30 - 60 seconds on my best attempts (as opposed to multiple minutes on a chin balance). So this is definitely a long term project even though it seemed simple in scope.

Nigel

Orinoco - - Parent

I feel the world needs to see two performers facing off on a Renegade stage trying to shoot each others' birds.

DavidCain - - Parent

Hello Gentlemen. The birds I used were just sketches of birds printed on card stock with one half of a table tennis ball taped to the bottom of each, so that they could perch on their "nests". I truly think the easiest way to do it is to get a golf umbrella, remove the nylon fabric, and use the metal arms as the branches. Print out the birds on card stock, bend them down the middle, and put them on the branches. A nerf blow gun or even cheaper alternative works just fine. If you want me to send you a word document with the bird sketch, just let me know the email address to send it to. I'm glad I've been able to resurrect such a fun and completely silly trick.
David

It's Him - - Parent

Hi David,

Can you please send me that sketch to (my name)AT its him dotcodotuk (no spaces or capitals in there)

Nigel

DavidCain - - Parent

Here's a link for anyone to get the bird sketch. I should have just done this in the first place.
http://historicaljugglingprops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Bird.jpg

Orinoco - - Parent

I'm guessing that's not to scale. What's the wingspan of your finished birds?

DavidCain - - Parent

21.5 cm

Orinoco - - Parent

Thanks. In which case printing this pdf document onto A4 should result in a suitable sized bird.

Mike Moore -

Activities to keep new jugglers interested at club

I'm considering making some kind of resource of many fun tricks/patterns/games that:

1) Do not require high technical skill (3b cascade is sufficient)
2) Result in the building of skills that are likely to be useful in future juggling
3) ARE FUN

This is inspired by an old workshop handout from Mr E. called 3 Ball Fun With Others, presented at the 2011 IJA.

What are some activities that were fun for you when you were learning to juggle? What are some you've encountered, or thought of since? Interested in individual, newbie-newbie, and newbie-oldie (and with more people, if you have them!) activities.

(I'm aware of the importance of non-juggling things to keep people interested, but that's not what I'm focused on at the moment.)

Orinoco - - Parent

The Circle Game!!!

Mike Moore - - Parent

Oooo, wonderful! Thanks!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Bothhand passing large e.g. soccer or basket or volley balls .. a 2 people 2 ball or 3b bothhanded shower or 3b bothhanded cascade ?

7b_wizard - - Parent

Have a lot there to discover: all kinds 'a props, ropes, sticks, lasso, cups, PET bottles to spin into stance, anything. a throw-heights-relations-poster (or drawing) on the wall. an internet connection. a shelf with a few juggling books. big stuff like a rack, big cases, a trampoline, a walking globe.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Do you think there is an optimal time to start teaching different props? It would be a dedicated effort (not a "Hey, what's that?) because our club tends to stick with balls rings clubs poi flowersticks diabolo.

7b_wizard - - Parent

I'm afraid, I have no idea (maybe s.o. else). I was just thinking of beginners who were for the moment ``done´´ with balls and learning the cascade, soas there would be lots of other things to explore.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Finish your sessions as a group with some long (3-5m) endurances! If you drop, pick up and get back in the pattern ASAP. People pick any pattern based on their own skill level.

standard 3b with 4 hands juggling, but back to back

Sitting, rolling down clubs from your knees. getting 5 clubs to roll in a cascade isn't too hard, 3 is super easy and 7 is a fun challenge (which can be mastered in one or two sessions)

If I teach workshops to adults, I get them to try ass catches. Can't go wrong with those

Frisbeeing 3 rings at once stacked like a fan for a partner to catch on arm-head-arm

One of my favorite passing patterns, which can be joined by people who are able to exchange 2 clubs ( 330 ), is the carousell. It requires at least like 4-5 jugglers, it gets more comfortable with 6-7+. With half of them okay jugglers and at least one good one it's not hard to get this running:
One juggler stands on one side (6m free space behind and beside him), runners form a row on the other side. All runners except the outer right one (from runners point of view) will hold 2 clubs, outer right holds 3. Juggler also holds 3. Outer runner(runner 1) and juggler make a pass at the same time, but juggler passes to runner 2. Runner 1 leaves the line, runs behind the other runners and joins them on the left side. Runner 2 receives L, makes one self, and another pass, while juggler passes (in 2count) already to runner 3.
All the runners hold 2 clubs, wait for their one "receive, self, pass", and then run behind to the other end of the line, making them turn in a circle around the juggler and in a circle around each other. Juggler continuously passes in 2 count, but always to the person next to the one from which he/she receives the pass.
It's easy to get it to work once the runners understand "receive, self, pass", and the runners have a lot of time to pick up dropped clubs. If the juggler drops, you can work out how runners can sacrifice their clubs by making a pass even though they haven't received (juggler skips a runner) so that the pattern can keep on going.

Phew, I hope that makes sense, there is probably an easier way to explain this. Like, me acting it out when I'm in your gym...

Mike Moore - - Parent

Hmm, I hadn't even considered the effect of our meetings not having a specific ending time. They're always a "Come around 5:30, juggle until you don't want to anymore". That said, having a particular time for endurance games could be good!

I think the priming by Orin's post made your description very easy to understand[1]. We could of course do a carousell with balls, too!

[1] But still come visit if you're ever in Ontario

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Fly me over with the perfomance budget of your nearest convention, and I'll stick around to teach some mass passing :p

7b_wizard - - Parent

blow up a silk-hanky with accu-hand-fan, max three blowers per re-blow-up, then they step back. upto two hankies per group ?

bad1dobby - - Parent

Two-person-five-object passing is a great way to get 2 people juggling together, while being easier than standard passing.
Juggler A always throws straight (ie. R hand throw to partners L hand) Juggler B always throws diagonally (ie. R hand throw to partners R hand). The pattern goes A-R B-L A-L B-R. Get the better juggler to do the straight throws, as the diagonal throws are easier.

Basic takeouts are a good fun extension of 3 ball juggling for two people. There is the challenge of maintaining a cascade-with-a-hole for the juggler, and the challenge of timing the steals and replacements for the stealer.

Learning to spin 2 rings in opposite directions on the arm is another thing that's easy to explain, not too difficult (and not too easy) to achieve, and readily leads to other ideas.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Ah, I think you've outlined nicely some new metrics for value in your last suggestion. I recall there being a trick like that in the Encyclopaedia, too. Thanks!

It's Him - - Parent

As a fairly easy starter game that enhances juggling skills and is fun, volley ball, as opposed to volley club, is much simpler and only really requires you to be able to juggle for a few throws. Games that work well with kids and that might work well with adults include Simon Says, 3 ball Combat and even things like 'What's the time Mr Wolf?',

Running a youth circus group, the things that they learn quickest are all the balance skills (stilts, walking globe, unicycle and tightrope), diabolo and hula hoop. They also enjoy staff, poi and levi stick but it helps if you have someone around who can do more than just the basic tricks.

Nigel

Mike Moore - - Parent

Ah, never thought of some of those! I think British Bulldog might also be fun.

Mïark - - Parent

Wouldn't British Bulldog be a non-juggling game? Or do you propose to make people juggle while they run across avoiding being flattened?

Mike Moore - - Parent

Replace "flattened" with "made to stop juggling in a gentle way" and you've got it.

It's Him -

I have just read on the Belfast Community Circus Facebook page about the passing of Will Chamberlain.

Some of you will remember him as being part of the organising team of BJC Norwich in 1995. I knew him more recently as we were both directors of the youth circus organisation CircusWorks and was impressed with his humour and deep knowledge of organisational matters.

My thoughts are with his family at this time.

Nigel

It's Him -

Congratulations to the Void!

I have just read on a Facebook post from Donald Grant that he has passed his 6th Dan Kendama exam. this is the highest level and he has become the first ever non-Japanese to manage it. I know that he has had several attempts beforehand and that it had proved elusive even though all the individual skills were doable. So many congratulations on his perseverance.

Nigel

It's Him - - Parent

Apologies for the uncapitalised 't' at the start of a sentence. Just goes to show I should read my posts more thoroughly before hitting the post button.

Nigel

The Void - - Parent

Thank you, Nigel. I'll even forgive you the "t".

I wrote a Twitter thread about it, that starts here:
Today I became the first non-Japanese player to pass the highest grade of 6th Dan in kendama. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. 1/- pic.twitter.com/SdzusdcqQn
— The Void (@TheVoidTLMB) October 14, 2017

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

Mazal tov from Israel.

lukeburrage - - Parent

This is really cool. Congrats.

Is there an easy to read list of the tricks you needed to do, with video links?

Thanar - - Parent

I don't know enough about kendama to be sure, but this video claims to show all the tricks for 6th Dan in kendama: https://youtu.be/Yx47Uh6OfQo

The Void - - Parent

Hi Luke,
Thank you.
http://kendama.co.uk/tricks.html lists them all, with gifs, if that will do you. Right hand column of the Advanced/Dan table will show you how many of each one I had to do successfully in 10 attempts. (Plus, of course, having previously done all the stuff to get to 5th Dan, and then wait a year before being allowed to try.)

lukeburrage - - Parent

Yes, the list is good and the rules are clear. The gifs make my eyes bleed though, so the video was highly appreciated.

The Void - - Parent

If you want to read the long* story, it’s at http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3098.msg29896.html#msg29896 (after the tweets).

* Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Orinoco - - Parent

That was a great read thank you. The story is always much more interesting than just the bare facts. All the more satisfying to learn that your achievement was in spite of sub-optimal conditions.


* As ever I disagree with the insinuation that 'long' equals 'bad'.

bad1dobby - - Parent

Well done Void! First in the world is a helluva thing!

I enjoyed the 'long' read.

The Void - - Parent

Thank you. But it's far from "first in the world". There are ~30-40 extant Japanese 6th Dan players. But I'll take it. :-)

bad1dobby - - Parent

Yes, fair point. I actually meant first non-Japanese in the world, as per OP, but now you've got me thinking about it I see that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

How about this: Congrats Void! Approximately 41st in the world is a helluva thing!

The Void - - Parent

I'll take it! :-)

7b_wizard - - Parent

I go along with that.
On foreign terrain it's so much the better an achievement as the natives always have an edge or two with a long tradition an' all on their side. On a side note, as a halfway decent chess player (over 50% on club level), I had been into Chinese Chess, Xiangqi, for a while, and the natives (real-life and online play) gave me a hard time to even win one game and leave rookie level, while I could win games against germans or other longnoses. However.
Congrats, The Void!

Kelhoon - - Parent

Congrats Void, well done

Monte - - Parent

Well done mate. I didn't even know you were trying again this year. Is that it now or can you go even higher?

The Void - - Parent

Cheers. It's the tops, it's the Colosseum. :)

It's Him -

In the ongoing aim to promote a juggling convention just outside Milton Keynes, I am happy to start another thread.

People who use Facebook will possibly be aware of (maybe even invited to) the MKJC8 event on the Milton Keynes Juggling Convention page. The event page is where all the latest news will appear first but eventually I will transfer the information here as well.

So far announcements that have been made:

The main trader has changed from Beard or Butterfingers (both of which are sadly no more) and will this year be JAC. Gale Francis will also be there selling her FunRa's Fun Things.

The first act of the show will be no surprise to anyone who has ever been to MKJC before.

The second announced act is Void. As he is on the juggling edge (and I really wanted to capitalise there) he can tell you as much as he wants to about his act.

Further acts will be announced in due course and if all of those people who have said provisionally yes appear in the show it will be a great line up.

Nigel

No longer the organiser

#MKJC8

The Void - - Parent

Yes, I'll be doing stuff onstage, and perhaps not doing stuff as well, but in both cases, without kendama. :D

The Void - - Parent

There is no link to the fb page either in your post or in the JE event entry.

It's Him -

Today Milton Keynes Juggling Club sometimes known as Jugglers Anonymous and/or the juggley love club is 25 years old!

Which means I've spent half my life going to this club.

I'm curious to know how many clubs out there are older? I know there will be a few in the UK but elsewhere?

Nigel

Maria - - Parent

"My" club is younger, but it's 20 years this year. (Fritidsjonglörerna, Stockholm.) Maybe I should try to find out the date so we can celebrate. :)

Mike Moore - - Parent

The 25th annual Waterloo Festival happened earlier this year, so I think it's safe to say it's older. No idea how much older, though.

The Void - - Parent

Congratulations on both feats!
#Altern8 in Bristol is older by a few years. http://www.jugglingedge.com/forum.php?ThreadID=2914&SmallID=21647#Small21647

glomph - - Parent

Flying Teapot's the Uni of Sheffield circus society celebrated 30 years this year!

York Jugglers - - Parent

Congratulations!

York Jugglers is also 25 years old this year (October to be more precise) but we don't have any members who have been going for all 25 years.

charlieh - - Parent

I first went to Cambridge Community Circus (then named Patchwork Circus) in 1992 so it's at least 25 years old, and rumor has it that there was a juggling club run by some of the same people in the late 80s.

Orinoco - - Parent

Turns out TWJC will be 25 later this month!

The top 10 oldest active UK clubs with a known established date in the Edge database:

Nottingham Juggling Club (1980)
Flying Teapots (1985)
Hullabaloo (1988)
Altern8 (1989)
Glasgow Juggling Club (1990)
Imperial College Juggling Society (1990)
Camcircus, Milton Keynes, Tunbridge Wells, York Jugglers (1992)

Interesting because the BJC is 30 years old. I expected there to be more than 4 clubs (Balls up in Portsmouth was established in 1987 but is alas no more) to be active at the time to provide an audience to make a national event viable. I'm sure there were clubs that predate internet records. Or is it that annual juggling events produce local juggling clubs rather than the other way around?

The oldest club we have on record is Santelli, NL which has allegedly been going since 1962.

Bosco - - Parent

Hastings Juggling Club started in 1990. Russell Watson was the original motivator. Still going but monthly. It's been responsible for much - marriages, break ups, new careers, making people happy, an escape from the world we live in and more, just like the other juggling clubs around the world I'm sure.

Where would we be without a juggling club?

Orinoco - - Parent

I hope HCC wasn't responsible for the break ups! Although come to think of it I did leave someone partly because she thought what my juggling friends & I did was 'silly'.

Bosco - - Parent

I'm sure it was lack of juggling causing break ups.

JonPeat -

The Sheffield Circus Convention 2017 – Review (UK)


My review of the Sheffield Circus Convention is now available for your perusal:

http://www.juggle.org/sheffield-circus-convention-2017-review-uk/



Thank you once again to the organising team for putting on the event. :-)

Cheers, Jon

#SCSC2017

Orinoco - - Parent

I think fire ukulele would be good. No particular reason, I just always wish they were on fire.

It's Him - - Parent

Fire drums!

Same reasoning. Thankfully there isn't the same amount of drumming happening at BJCs at the start of the millennium it was almost constant.

Nigel

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

> Thankfully there isn't the same amount of drumming happening at BJCs at the start of the millennium it was almost constant.

Still there, just drowned out by middle-aged whining ;-)

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