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Guinness world records for juggling...
I recently heard that for (some/all?) marathon-style events, GWR permits (accumulating) breaks every hour — for example, a 5-minute break every hour. Since the 3- and 4-ball endurance world records were both awarded by GWR, I was wondering whether anyone knew whether this was also the case for the juggling records?
Call me a purist, but it seems that, as impressive as juggling for 12 hours, with only short breaks in, is — it wouldn't be fair to strictly count time after taking breaks, and it'd be nice to know if this was the case for those records. Anyone know, or have any thoughts?
I'd like to know that as well, I always wondered how a normal human being deals with basic human commodity for 12 hours while juggling!
It's been suggested that an adult diaper might be helpful. Also drinking from a straw and being fed carefully.
Once you sign up for doing an actual entry, you get an email including aaalll of the specifications and rules regarding that particular entry (if one has been set before). So I recommend pretending you're going to set something.
I've done so ages ago for a record, wasn't too complicated.
Ah, that's good advice, thank you! I just sent a general enquiry a moment ago, but if they can't give me the information, I shall do that! I'll report back here when I know more.
Their general enquiry reply was a lot of auto-generated nonsense, so I've submitted a record attempt form. Let's see where that goes...
Doesn't answer your questions, but here's an interview with the record holder that was just published: https://www.juggle.org/interview-david-slick/
From the interview: "No breaks allowed and the throwing must alternate hands."
And then in the promo video posted in the article there is a news caption:
"David Slick goes 12 hours without eating, drinking or bathroom break"
That's much more detailed than anything I managed to find previously, thanks! That seems to support a continuous 12-hour record, which is comforting! (Especially the quotes about training for a long time to be able to do that.)
By "must alternate hands", does that mean you can't set records for synchronous patterns? Or would it still be alright since both hands are used? What about siteswaps with a "0" where you end up throwing with the same hand twice?
I guess for this particular record they want you to throw a cascade, and "must alternate hands" was the way Guinness describes the cascade. Of course one can try and be creative with the rules, but first we must consult the full rule document which Varkor might receive soon.
Haha, great! A. Ma. Zing. Guess no one including himself had him on their short list?
I don't know...after watching Corrections, I'm pretty convinced he's unstoppable.
I re-posted this elsewhere and didn't get a single comment. Some people are just hard to impress.
Do you know or can you think of a trick, a move, that is h a r d e r with l e s s props? [ #trick ]
Yes, a three ball fountain vs. a four ball fountain! But, to be serious, some might consider shoulder throws with 3 balls or (especially) clubs more difficult than shoulder throws with 4.
I suspect this is more because people simply don't bother practising them, but *proper* 4-club backcrosses (in a fountain pattern), might have a smaller difficulty gap between the 4- and 5-club version than other tricks — because the rotation of the clubs is the "wrong" way round — it rotates out of your grasp rather than into it. I would probably rate it as more difficult... but perhaps if you upped the numbers further...
Because the club leaves your hand on the opposite side of your body to the hand the club is thrown with. Throws in a backcross fountain cross your body twice (once whilst you're holding it, once in the air).
I disagree on your definition. IMO the "crosses" in "backcrosses" refers to the club crossing from one hand to the other. Which it does not do in the pattern you describe.
Not to say it's not an impressive trick/pattern.
Is this what you are calling "backsames", David?
I always understood that "backcrosses" were "left hand throw appears over right shoulder" and "backsames" were "left hand throw appears over left shoulder" with the implication that the catching hand is the one associated with the shoulder
I'm not sure what you'd call "left hand throw appears over right shoulder, is then caught by left hand" apart from "fugly"
Yes, Sounds like backsames. It's a four club fountain backcross-like throws that come back to the throwing hand. Backcrosses require the clubs to be caught by the opposite hand that threw the club / prop.
I find 3b levels harder than 4b levels. I often find myself struggling to remember how to do 3b levels, whereas the 4b version feels so natural to me. (levels: http://libraryofjuggling.com/Tricks/3balltricks/Levels.html)
Perhaps a "most catches of a period one siteswap in a minute" would be easier with 4 than 3. I realize that the records don't reflect that now, but I imagine 4b columns more rapidly approaches infinite catches per minute than 3b cascade/reverse cascade. Maybe a vertically-spaced Boston mess with 3b could go faster, though...
I just found sth with triplexes:
6b [32T1] or 2 8b-2
The 8 ball version is easier (for me), because the stacked 5 + 7 are collected together before throwing the next triplex, while, with 6b, you throw next right after the lower ball of that stack is caught. So the 3 + 5 must be well apart (needn't with 8b).
I haven't tried 7 ball duplexes but I'd imagine they're harder than 8 ball duplexes. However, I'm not sure if I'd say that  is 'the 7 ball version' of .
I'd say 5b-[32T] is the 5 ball version for (horizontal duplex) "splits", and 7b- their 7b version.
The lower version for 8b-, would be 6b- (uncut stacked duplex).
So, same, evens or unevens, and same throw types, compare, rather than else it's another trick.
Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplex_%28juggling%29#Throw_types (Stack, Split, Cut, and Slice)
I enjoyed EJC for the first time last year and I hope to make it back this year :)
A number of Android's new emoji were revealed today (http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/android-n-developer-preview-2-out-today.html). Among them, the emoji entitled "Juggling".
The problem, I am sure, is clear to us all.
But perhaps it's not too late. The version of Android that is to first include these new characters is a developer preview, for which community feedback is encouraged. Do we want such fallacious imagery to pervade throughout a good portion of the global connected population? Do we care enough to try and stop it before it's too late? Maybe.
It could just be me. But I'm willing to bet there are least a few others who are irked by this too.
1. Who juggles with gloves on?
2. Jugglers wear hats with wider brims.
3. They have to look at what they are juggling.
I can't spot anything anything else wrong with it.
I like to imagine he's doing 5 ball blind behind-the-neck throws, but they're just a bit too high
It is obviously slower (albeit infinitesimally so these days).
https pages are not (or at least should not be) cached.
Some proxies/firewalls don't allow https traffic.
Well I never.
I've been running HTTPS Everywhere since BT thought it would be a simply smashing idea to start injecting ads for themselves into their customers' HTTP requests (hint: It wasn't you massive band of cynical cockwombles) and I don't think I've ever noticed another site that reverts to HTTP. I don't require enforced secure connections but it hadn't even really occurred to me there might be places that don't do it.
About bloody time too! <shakes g33k="" fist=""></shakes>
Several improvements to Causal diagrams this week.
We now also have a sandbox with options to tweak the dimensions & colours allowing you to create some truly horrendous looking diagrams. Also has the ability to export as a png image.
Awesome! I like the sandbox and ability to export the image, nice to play with and maybe I'll share a causal diagram somewhere outside of the Edge sometimes... :)
Just thought I'd let you know that it doesn't look so good on Retina / @2x displays at the moment — the <canvas> is upscaled, so it gets all blurry. (The trick is to draw everything at twice the size, and then downscale with CSS.) Just to make things a little more complicated for you!
A clever idea, but many of the letters are completely unrecognisable. How is ||| anything like E? I'd be interested to see how they actually came up with the letters — I have a feeling many could be improved, although I don't doubt it's no easy thing to do.
Some of us tried to actually do this for a birthday video for Lewis - https://youtu.be/z7YxYN_1Kc8?start=42
I wondered what we did...to our shame I'm not sure our idea for E was better!
To be fair, we did actually attempt to juggle them, with very little practise.
Top ten most frequently logged records in JugglingEdge Records.
There are 10273 records logged.
There are records for 1084 unique tricks.
The ten most logged tricks are:
7b cascade was logged 432 times.
5b cascade was logged 430 times.
6b fountain was logged 282 times.
5c cascade was logged 264 times.
3b back crosses was logged 133 times.
5b 744 was logged 132 times.
8b fountain was logged 121 times.
6b synchronous fountain was logged 117 times.
9b cascade was logged 114 times.
3b in one hand was logged 112 times.
The clustering is interesting there.
Do people work on tricks in pairs of something?
I can't afford the airfare to France every time I want to learn something new.
My immediate thought is, what is 3b back crosses doing in there amongst all those 'numbers' tricks?
Can we also get "people that logged X"? Something like "7b cascade was logged by xxx different people".
http://www.jugglingedge.com/records.php?PropNumber=7&PropType=b&Trick=cas .. 50 people. .. [ Main Menu "Records" --> linky "search records" --> "Number of props": drop-down-choice "7" + "Prop type": "ball" + Siteswap: [empty or ``7´´] + "Pattern": "cascade" ] .. ;o]p
There are 73 different people that posted 432 records for 7 ball cascade.
I am using Python to look at this data, here is a link to an image of the code's text: http://i.imgur.com/tcUnZi2.png.
I would really like to just type the 6 lines of Python code in to this text box, but I can't find a way.
You can use the <code> tag:
import pandas as pd
records = pd.read_csv('/home/sm/Desktop/records.csv')
sbc = 
for record in records.values:
if 7==record and 'b'==record and 'cas'==record:
print 'there are', len(np.unique(sbc)), 'jugglers working on 7 ball cascade
I'll let the typographical error in that be an exercise in debugging for the reader...
I see three, but I'm not sure if two of them are due to the formatting of the code block or your copying.
There are 4: 2 code block formatting, 1 typographical, and Orinoco forgot to import numpy as np.
Ah, I ignored that as it an expert from the whole code :P
Another one would be that the code block allows wrapping, which would have lead to multiple addition issues...
What's your preferred method sharing Python code? I don't think I'll ever be able to get it into this text box, which would be ideal. My preferred alternative is posting an image (like I did) of the code running, the drawback is copy/paste doesn't work. I don't like Github either.
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