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The UK's former juggling magazine is now (mostly) on line at www.jugglingmagazines.com - I hope you enjoy it!
Super Mike, thanks.
I glanced through the first few pages of issue #1, and lo and behold there's Lindsay Hurd (misspelled in The Catch) who AFAIK is still working in touring circus. And there's Shaun Bridges, an Archaos-grade BMX expert and massive nutter who nearly immolated a crowd in a basement in Bath at around that time. How the fucking fuck so many of us survived the rampant negligence and recklessness of that time, I do not know.
Well done, and thanks. (Sorry for not answering the email... Didn't have any spares).
"To view it full-screen click the icon in the bottom right-hand corner." Does that mean the magnifying glass icon? 'Cos for me, that just maximises the magazine within the viewer, but doesn't make the viewer fullscreen. (iPad 2, iOS 9.2)
On PC (oldversion firefox 16) it's same .. bottom left glass-magnifies once which is still too small; bottom right, "fullscreen" won't work.
I've made a change which might help for older browsers for Issue 1. Does http://jugglingmagazines.com/?page_id=117 work now? If so I'll copy the change across all the pages.
Fullscreen's perfect now.
( The little zooming window appears, but it's still too small to read; but that doesn't matter, as fullscreen works well now. .. I'm anyway blaming my old machine, constellation and configuration. I'm just not updating everything all the time. )
On desktops there's a square-with-gaps icon in the bottom right hand corner for full screen - it looks like it doesn't exist on mobile devices. I'll have a play and see if I can work something out...
Hopefully it's better now...it's working well on all of my (non-apple) mobile devices
That's brilliant, thanks Mike.
For your "Other Juggling Magazines" page there is also an archive of Jugglers world" 1981-1998 online at http://dev.juggle.org/history/archives/jugmags/index.php (hopefully it won't get obliterated by IJA website modernisation). It doesn't have the search capacity that the juggling.org archive has, but has a limited index and is slightly more complete
very well done
i have a set of 3 ply press her as well that should be archived at some point should anyone with the skill and inclination fancy that
Great work Mike, well done!
I recognise the covers of issues 12 & 14 so I should have issue 13. I will check what condition my copy is in. What format do you need a scan in? I'll see if I can find somewhere to scan it myself, if unable I can pop it in the post to you or pass it along to you or one of your staff members at the BJC.
Excellent, thanks Orin.
I've been working with full colour 300dpi jpgs if you can rustle them up - otherwise post would be good too.
...and now complete rebuilt to (hopefully!) work better on mobile devices
Thanks Mike - really enjoyed that trip down memory lane. I didn't realise I had previously owned quite so many issues.
Were some of those ones that I had donated? some of the (coffee) stains looked familiar!
Spouts of Fury: When Tea and Kung Fu Collide.
I found this on reddit where one of the /r/juggling subscribers mentioned it in an entirely different sub - thanks, /u/Sub_Mentions bot! - and I thought The Edge would appreciate the skills and the sentiments.
LP will undoubtedly revile the paucity of biscuits, but you can't have everything can you?
More detail about the form here: http://www.teavivre.com/info/gongfu-tea-long-pot/
I haven't yet found a source for long pots, but it feels like a lot of the moves could be achieved with a long spout watering can, the sort used for houseplants.
That is lovely.
The numerous origins are very interesting. If I was an emperor fearing assassination I don't think making people carry a spear like tea pot would make me feel at ease.
That time of the year again!
Here's what I've been up to this year, friends... a few new tricks, from me to you! Hope you dig it!
Fun stuff! I especially liked the table cloth pull at the start :D
It's inspiring to see, and makes me want to make a similar video some day! However I'm really not in the habit of recording myself yet, perhaps that is a first thing to tackle ;)
How did "Bramson rolls" end up being called that? I see more and more people use that name, but I would really prefer to call them "Everhart rolls"
Do you know who first named them like this?
That's a good question (... For David! Ha!)
I've heard that trick referred to as "bramson rolls" for as long as I've seen it. My guess is that Bob is the first guy who was televised doing it? One point of anec-data for ya :p
I think I've been assuming it's similar to why Alberts/Treblas are called Alberts/Treblas.
ie they're so named because more jugglers have seen Bob Bramson do them than Everhardt (because more footage exists of Bramson, for obvious reasons)
Although, oddly - the earliest reference I can find to the term "Bramson Rolls" seems to be a post on rec.juggling form 2009 from Norbi.
Seems like the term should pre-date that, so it's kinda odd it doesn't show up on r.j before then.
I'm not sure. I don't remember it having a name before I heard them called Bramson Rolls in the last five years or so.
And like "isolated" its one of the many juggling terms that really annoys me when I see it used "incorrectly". For me, Bramson's trick only has the correct aesthetic qualities when performed with four objects. With three objects, especially three small hoops or rings, it has a hole in it, and completely ruins the effect.
Bramson Rolls is definitely a recent term. Everhart obviously did it first with three, but Howard Nichols did it with four, including on television and film, before Bramson. It probably just comes down to the fact that modern jugglers most often associate it with Bramson because he was the virtuoso hoop juggler of the modern era and so many videos exist of him.
Apparently freestyle dance/acrobatics in a freefall simulator competitions are a thing.
Never seen this before (wait for it...), I was blown away.
I'll get my coat
I wonder how expensive getting and running one of those is. If it is reasonable, I wonder if it might crop up in a circus at some point.
It looks like fun though!
They are only (ha!) a bunch of very powerful fans & a perspex enclosure. While very niche I can't imagine they would be expensive enough to put off Cirque Du Soleil. Limiting factor would then be power supply, I doubt you'd be able to plug it in at the mains.
Does it really offer anything substantially better than more traditional flying trapeze acts? Once the novelty has worn off probably not. Having the performer enclosed off from the audience & wearing a crash helmet takes away a lot of the performer's ability to engage with an audience too.
I should've also noted in my original post the performer is Maja kuczyńska who came third in the Wind Games 2017 held in Cataluna.
I wouldn't have thought it would need more than 63A 3 phase, which should be readily available in most theatrical venues (and indeed, most tented venues)
The novelty factor, rigging difficulties, enclosed performers etc have never stopped wall-of-death or ball-of-death acts from being popular.
Talking of intriguing props, I'll just drop this teaser from Greg Kennedy/Michael Karas here as it doesn't seem long enough to warrant a new thread on its own:
Those two do seem to have a habit of coming up with/developing toys I want to play with, but which I don't have the space to build...
That looks like it could be rather interesting to watch. I like the projector onto the moving bars.
There is way more to these things than just a big fan. They are wind tunnels laying in their side. They are WAY bigger than just the Perspex column you see here. That's the minority of the thing. They take up entire buildings.
Yep. A friend of mine got into parachutig and then flight tunnels (it's a very expensive hobby by the look of it). The airflow is on the order of 2 million cubic meters an hour (tunnel cross section is at least 10 square meters, air speed 200 kph or so) - it's not just one fan, it's stacked series of fans top and bottom, and some bloody enormous filtered intake vents elsewhere in the building.
I am now trying to imagine what 2 million cubic meters an hour would do to a tent...
I am now trying to imagine what 2 million cubic meters an hour would do to a tent...
If you were at BJC 2013 in Pickering you could've experienced it.
To be clear, here's a diagram. See how big the perspex tube is in this?
However, I don't want to quash the idea of this appearing in a Cirque du Soleil show in the future. If anyone will do it, it'll be them.
It's just that it won't be a single act, and it won't be a touring show, and it certainly won't be in a big top. It'll need to be like the O show in Vegas, which is entirely built around water and diving and other aquatic things. The show is built around that, and also the theatre.
I could see something similar with "air" show. All that stuff in the picture above? That would be around and behind the stage. The perspex tube could maybe be removable, or extend up and down. Air could also be diverted out of the tube, to blow things sideways or down or whatever.
How about the more portable outside versions? They look a lot smaller.
When the fan is below, the column of air is super lumpy with turbulence from the spinning blades. That's just about good enough to hold your body flat and stay up, but the fine control needed for dance moves isn't possible. The modern installations have the fans above, and suck the air up, which means it is a uniform column of air and has no turbulence.
Of course, the sucking fans need a sealed column of air, which is why there is the perspex tube for the flier. The air speed is the same from the top to the bottom, unlike the open design with the fan below, where the air speed drops off as the stream dissipates. It's just a massive blast, and you're balanced on top of it.
You really need the wall-to-wall air column for dance routines like in the previous video.
Neat. BBC article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38890112
Why do people say "are a thing" when they could say "exist"?
If this was the 90's, and rec.juggling - I'd be making inappropriate jokes about Neil Stammer right now.
I can imagine artists using weights in order to not fly (so much). There'd then be ``groundies, slomo-jumpies and flyers (flyees)´´ to be choreographed to a showact. Lightweighties could be held by ropes or rubber-ribbons to be able to stand or dive upside down permanently without sinking back down, too. (( Maybe also bring your pet, cat or dog lol. ))
Chocfest 2017 - The York Juggling Convention (UK)- Review
The 22nd annual juggling convention held in the city of York took place on Saturday 28th January.
Please follow the link to read my account of the day.
I hope you enjoyed the review or the convention, whether you did or didn't, join the discussion!
Could you please ask Jenni to write an article explaining her fear of the Mona Lisa.
Oh no! Your convention reviews are no longer on Juggling Edge, is it because you couldn't put pictures on JE?
I am glad you spelt Emily's boots correctly.
Have a hashtag nonetheless #Chocfest22
Sorry I couldn't make it, I wanted to be there as it was the day after my 40th - but I had a family thing to go to on the Friday night and didn't fancy a 4hr drive there and a 4hr drive back on the Saturday.
It turns out that the other two jugglers I know of who share my birthday weren't there either though, so I don't feel too bad.
What's with your possession of multiple items of jugglers' footwear. Is this some kind of fetish?
Glad you enjoyed Chocfest this year.
Could you include a link to Chocfest website, www.chocfest.net , so people reading your review in the future could find more details of successive Chocfests. Tried to comment directly on Ezine but there is no indication on that website how one obtains the login necessary to leave a comment. (Fightnightcombat also no longer gives convention website details)
Piers van Looy doesn't normally spell his name with extra e (or was this added for comic effect?).
I debated asking Jenni to write the article about her Mona Lisa fear but she has been doing very well and I wouldn't want to cause a relapse...
I have added the Chocfest website to the review and corrected the spelling error on Pier's name, both good suggestions thank you!
People should be more carefull with their footwear. End of.
On fightnightcombat.com, after the event has ended, the website and other links are taken off the main tournament page and put under the "news and links" tab. In the case of Chocfest, the only link I added this year was the Facebook Event Page, so I guess that's still a problem for this specific tournament, but generally the links are still available.
Live recording of the 38ème Festival Mondial du Cirque de Demain.
Haven't watched yet, saving this for later.
We watched it live on two Arte videostream on Saturday night. It certainly had a couple of moments. I'll let you guess my favourite acts once you've watched it.
i suggest to watch it on arte and support them instead of giving the clicks to a russian pirate
Watched it live through a VPN as well. Highlights for me were the beatbox guy, hand balancer, Swedish Chinese pole guys, Canadian luggage trolley lady, Diabolo. Viktor Kee was a judge.
The ball juggling routine was superb, the characterisation was brilliant, and he owned the audience!
I also really enjoyed the diabolo routine (although I just can't stand vertex or whatever it is called, it looks so inelegant!)
Something I liked about both performers is that they were not afraid to push things to the edge of their abilities, and it was the small failures that really made the acts.
I thought that the drops for the ball finale might have been planned. At least, the first one seemed to be.
I think it was a bit of both - I'm pretty sure this was on the edge of his abilities, but with the 'skit' around having someone come and pick them up being entirely rehearsed. I very much doubt his act is planned to have an exact number of drops. It's part of what keeps the performance fresh.
Yeah. Although he got a really strong crowd reaction after the first drop, which is why I thought that that one might be planned. And then maybe one more was expected.
Still good going!
Kerol, the beatboxing club juggler was not bad either.
I really enjoyed the seesaw + Chinese pole act as well, although I did not like the ending.
You can now als read my review of the festival at eJuggle:
Nice review! I would love to see the other show, do you know if it will be going online?
I watched it again on the weekend, and noticed that the Zhejiang Troupe's finale is even more mental than I thought: The base was actually in a handstand with the antipodist lying on his feet.
The other show was not recorded by Arte, so it will not go online as a full show. Probably some artists have recordings of their own, and might decide to release those online in the future.
Sadly I didn't snap a picture of that finale nor did I rewatch the video, but now that you remind me, yes that was the case. I really saw little of that act, much too distracted by the background dancers and trying to make a Dutch joke about it (die 8 dansers vormden de ACHTergrond ;) )
Ah well. Will keep an eye out.
The background dancers did seem superfluous.
I really enjoyed the whole show though.
Thanks for the enjoyable review, Daniel.
Regarding the Zhejiang troupe, you wrote:
I wonder whether you meant "unimaginably hard"?
"Unimaginatively hard" would mean something like "very difficult but not at all creative". (My apologies if that was your intended meaning)
Oopsy, that error slipped through! Thanks for the correction, this is the only way for me to improve my English :)
Juliane and I caught up with the Arte show yesterday, and we made very similar comments to your own about the acts, though I hadn't read your review at the time. Things like "I bet those dancers have something to do in a different act, but they are in the choreography throughout the main show, so here they are."
I'd seen ChihHan Chao (George) perform at the EJC, both on the Open Stage and in the Diabolo Battle (where he came second), so the act wasn't so special for me, especially with so many drops and mistakes. I understand why he got a gold medal though.
I have a choreographed drop at the end of a few of my acts, but Alejandro Escobedo needs to learn that if you don't get the trick after the "comedy picking-up the dropped props routine", then the next attempt has to happen FAST. As in, maybe slightly funny but most importantly No Hanging Around. By the second drop the audience already knows you are A. good at juggling, B. clever (for choreographing a drop, or having choreography to cover the drop), C. funny and D. entertaining. Extra choreography for each drop doesn't elevate B and only decreases A, meaning C and D have to ramp up to cover the deficiency. And it was such a pity after the rest of his routine was without major errors.
Earlier I needed help with some names, and here's the final video:
I do love the way we treat our heroes! The outside world must think that we have no respect for these people, but I don't think that could be further from the truth.
I recently acquired a set of juggling magazines from the 80s and 90s which inspired me to reassess the state of my collection.
Has anyone got a spare copy of The Catch, issue 13, from April-May 1995?
Would anyone like issues of The Catch, Kaskade or Juggler's World to fill gaps in their collections? I've got lots of spares.
Post a message here or email me on <my user name on this site>@juggler.net and we'll sort it out
Sadly I am also missing issue 13 of The Catch. If you spares of issues 5, 6, 19, 21, 22; I would be interested (was 24 the last issue or were there more after that?)
If you have spares and could bring them to Chocfest on Saturday, that would be neat.
I'll bring copies of 5, 6, 19 and 21 on Saturday. There was no Catch 22 (for literary reasons) but there was a 23.5 - have you got that?
would you consider digitalising "the catch". the digitalised versions of kaskade and jugglersworld are a great source of inspiration and information and i believe for many of us a print magazine collection is not really an option. i know i would be a shitload of work but maybe if some "catch magazine owners" would collaborate it could be done
Watch this space!
http://online.fliphtml5.com/lsvq/djcl/ is a test that might whet your appetite...
Well done for getting started on something which we've talked about doing for over a decade.
Have you had any more thoughts about how to overcome the OCR problems? Last time we talked about it, I think we decided the easiest way to deal with the use-every-font-in-the-box design was to copy type all the articles (ignoring the adverts)
I ask mostly because I have a huge stack of other non-juggling documents which are proving difficult to OCR, and any ideas I can pinch to make them easier to deal with would be appreciated!
For the moment I've decided to ignore the OCR problem and just get something scanned and uploaded. Details have derailed this too many times before!
http://booksorber.com/ might be worth a look as a quicker way to do bulk scanning of stuff; I've tried it with old children's books and it works pretty well for flattening things out, at least. (though for things where the entire page is coloured it can get confused by white balance, unless I'm missing something)
I think the best case scenario would be for the text to be recognised as text not an image of text, which would enable the text to be searched for specific words.
Unfortunately, given the design choices made by the catch the text is very difficult to extract automatically. This is the OCR problem I mentioned.
Feel free to experiment with different tools for doing so, if you find one which works great!
Otherwise, I think mikes approach of "worry about that bit later" is a wise one :)
Huh. Taking a look at the scanned version from above, they do not look insurmountable if there is good OCR software out there that can do OCR in a column. I have no idea if such things exist, or if I am just being naively optimistic.
But yes, just getting it scanned is an excellent step to be going on with. Well done, that man.
The thing that trips up every OCR approach I've tried so far is that in some issues every article is in a different font, some times multiple fonts in the same paragraph, with odd shaped columns that flow around a breakout quote...
However, if you've got access to OCR tooling that I don't (I've only got free stuff, iPhone apps and a really old version of acrobat), and are willing to try, please do so!
If you can report back with something that works I'd be extremely grateful as I have other documents that have so far evaded my attempts, and would be willing to spend money on the right tooling!
Unfortunately, given the design choices made by the catch the text is very difficult to extract automatically. This is the OCR problem I mentioned.
This with bells on. Which is why I've decided to 80/20 the hell out of it this time and just produce something.
It was a few years ago that I last looked into OCR software I couldn't find anything that was even remotely successful. Correcting dodgy OCR is considerably more time consuming than just typing up the article manually.
I got permission to type up a couple of articles from the Catch for the IJDb: The business of shows by Steve Rawlings & Juggling & Puppetry by the Parachute Theatre Company. Which is a start...
Back in 2010 I had the job of translating physical paper from Russian to English. I didn't/don't know Russian, and the instructor's advice was to use Microsoft Word's insert->symbol to manually insert each character in this 10 page paper.
Took some doing, but I found a multi-language OCR program (free trial) that must have had an amazing success rate. When I put the file into google translate, I had a fully-English document, with the only mistakes being around specific jargon!
It was that day that OCR impressed me.
Thanks Dan, I'll have a look at this - though the scanning isn't the problem for this job. I can remove two staples and put them through the photocopiers at work; it's the OCR bit which proved problematic in the past
If it's not playing nicely with OCR and is publicly available, could the copy typing be outsourced to the wider community? I'm sure there are a few of us who could spend the odd half hour on an article, and would spread the burden somewhat.
Thanks folks, I'll get the basics done and up somewhere and then be I'll be in touch with the wider community about making it better
I have a spare copy of issue 9 (but without the cardboard unicycle cover bonus). That's because the unicycle was missing on my subscription copy, so Stuart gave me another copy that did have the unicycle.
For collectors, it's worth noting that issue 18 was confusingly numbered "Issue 1 Spring 1996 Volume 2" instead of issue 18. They seemed to revert to the old numbering scheme for issue 19!
Hey guys, it's been a while, but finally everything has come together and this weekend you can not just listen to 1, but to 3 interviews I did with jugglers! Upcoming is Marco Bonisimo, Luke Burrage and Gregor Kiock!
Without the Edge this might have not existed, so thank you very much, especially on the feedback of my previous random video conversations!!!
I want to grow and improve this still, so any feedback is still very welcome, whether there will be future episodes all depends on the comments I get...
Oh and for the facebook peeps, follow the project there too: https://www.facebook.com/JuggleJabber/
Marco Bonisimo is a football juggler from the Netherlands. We talk about Guinness World Records, his personal life and juggling stories, and of course football juggling!
You can also listen to the audio version of this episode on SoundCloud:
And yeah I totally messed up there with the audio. Here is the proper version:
And there I managed to paste the old link. Yay for post editing :p
Let me try again:
Not being able to edit the posts wouldn't be so bad if the YouTube video embeds weren't obnoxiously large. There's never any need for them to be 100% width. The default embed width isn't an accident, as it is the most useful and pleasant to look at and scroll past.
Feature request: Default width AND please enable the full screen button. That combination would make me super happy :)
Except for people with screens narrower than the default width. But try that (will probably require some cache clearing) which should have the best of both worlds.
Thanks for responding so quickly. This thread is kinda sidetracking now, but who cares :p
It's not quite the ideal version for me. jTV videos now load on top of text for me, so I can't read the text any more (should I screenshot or is it the same at your end?), and youtube videos unfold over the whole post which looks fancy, but is there a way to close those youtube links again? For example to check out the other videos in a post, or reread the surrounding text?
Sounds like you need to clear your cache, specifically the css file in your case.
Thank you, I always thought a hard refresh did the job. A hard refresh on the CSS did the trick indeed :)
Also, I had forgotten I used a custom CSS, how do you remember such things? :o
And update it personally for me? :o
I just update the main file, then push a button which updates all the custom ones!
[not thought through, ad hoc thoughts, brainstorm:] Made it upto 11:53 (topic "circus school" to follow, the Bonissimo interview) .. (( my to watch list is growing and growing .. haven't yet watched corrections, the delaney bayles interview, .. am still stuck on two long gilligan vids. That's like 3-4-5 hours to watch juggling vids - but I can't (don't want to) take a day off to watch them all. Just ``did´´ the 15' AG appreciation. Am watching the long ones in bits of 5-10-15 minutes. And everyday juggler's weekly reel also has priority and I'm even getting two weeks behind with those sometimes. However, .. ))
I learn a lot about how jugglers incorporate juggling into their life, how they improve, their circumstances as jugglers, and about what makes them or their juggling special and it's nice to have a face, a person to remember, to allot, pictures in your head, when reading their names somewhere later.
I think, generally interviews could be made even more vivid and interesting by showing e.g. some specialities during the interview, even while talking on. (Also for not-yet-jugglers or beginners)
Looking foreward to your project being successful !
.. oh yeah, .. and .. however long you've been juggling, there's always a great wealth of tricks, other props, other styles, ways of doing, tricky moves, to discover, so I'm not surprised at all, that Bonissimo keeps on finding new (new to him) tricks to keep growing his repertoire. [that was a question in the interview] Juggling is ``open at the top´´ :o)
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