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Daniel Simu -

Hey guys,

Can anyone tell me about/link me to the origin of the HLGCBS tradition??
I'm writing one in article format at eJuggle, and would love to include a little history in there ;)

Orinoco - - Parent

It was originally started by the Madison Area Jugglers at which point it was only HLGCB, the S was added later. It was made popular by the Carmine Street Irregulars. I remember taking this info which I used for the glossary on the TWJC site from some rec.juggling posts of which I can only find one. To help with tracking down dates it was already a thing by 2003

lukeburrage - - Parent

I added the S. It was during a trip in a 12 seat van from the IJA summer festival 2004 in Buffalo down to New York City. After hearing the Banes of 12 people, I thought it was a bit depressing, especially as Adria M Moskowitz went last each time, and even her H and G and C were super real downers. Either then or later in the week chatting to other people in New York I proposed Surprise to make sure the conversations ended on an upward swing emotionally.

Surprise took a good while to stick, but now it seems like a regular part of the format.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I was vaguely aware that the S came later, as I remember seeing versions without S.
Thanks both of you for the information, I knew the Edge would be the right place to ask :D

Oh and Adria, haha, that is a name I haven't heard for a looong time!

Orinoco - - Parent

Can you remember what her high was? Did she not understand the game?!

Little Paul - - Parent

I'm willing to bet it was something to do with her eyesight

lukeburrage - - Parent

I can't remember exactly. Ewan brought up that car ride when he visited this year, so it obviously made an impression on him too.

Her Crush was a juggler who she'd chatted with online before the festival, and when she arrived, she was expecting some romance. It didn't materialize. I won't name the juggler.

So yeah, maybe she misunderstood the format.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Now that we're discussing Adria in public anyway..:

Her website lists this quote:

"she can clearly juggle better than many good jugglers I know."
--Luke Burrage

Care to share your story? ;)

lukeburrage - - Parent

Looks like it is a quote from this discussion: http://dev.juggle.org/history/discussion/archives/9278.php

I think it's great that someone has used juggling as a way to rehabilitate after a serious accident, but then (I feel) the story should be something along the lines of "I used to be disabled, but juggling helped me regain my health/abilities" and not "I'm a disabled juggler". If someone has bad eyesight and was once injured, but can now juggle 5 balls, I find them self-identifying as blind and physically disabled as a form of self promotion somewhere between dodgy to cringe-worthy.

But that was all over a decade ago. Now I'm not sure I care enough to be right or wrong on the topic.

The Void - - Parent

You can google using quotation marks, you know.... http://dev.juggle.org/history/discussion/archives/9277.php

The Void - - Parent

And I should refresh a page to check for replies before I post. :-)

Mïark - - Parent

Do you think Adria knows?

Mïark - - Parent

I am fairly sure I remember verbally going through HLGCB with jugglers on car drive back from a convention in 1999 so it must have been a thing before then, can't remember whether there was an S or not, just that I slightly misunderstood crush.

Mike Moore - - Parent

I give my attendees a discount if they write an HLGCBS, because I like reading them.

I'm excited about the article!

Daniel Simu - - Parent

It has taken a while before it could be published, but now I'm happy to finally share it with you!

http://ezine.juggle.org/2016/10/22/ejc-2016-hlgcbs-as-organiser/

Mike Moore - - Parent

I enjoyed that very much. I think these are always fun to see from the organizers' views, as there are often those, "%$^& THIS ASPECT IS GOING SO WRONG!" which is either unshared, or quickly forgotten about by the general jugglers.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Yeah, to be aware of the organizing stuff you NEED to be in the scene, since so little is written down (except about the BJC). I tried the same by publicizing data on my blog from the NJF2013, but I've taken the blog down by now so can't get you a link, haha ;)

Orinoco - - Parent

Interesting you think BJC is an exception. A common complaint in BJC circles is, "Not enough is written down".

Little Paul - - Parent

I think both are true.

There is more written down about running BJCs than about most fests, but there is still much more that could be usefully written down.

Thanar - - Parent

There is an HLGCB(S) entry in the Tunbridge Wells Juggling Club Glossary

By looking at that glossary page on archive.org, we see that it was first added between August 6 and October 1, 2003 with the following text:

High, Low, Goal, Crush, Bane
Traditional post-convention game first started by the Madison Jugglers & was popularised with the help of the Carmine Street Irregulars. Just get together with some fellow festival attendees & share the highlight, lowlight, goal (& to what degree you achieved it), crush & bane of your convention.

And "Surprise" was added to that glossary entry sometime between March 2012 and July 2013.

 

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