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charlieh -

Is it too early to start talking about Bungay? I've got the croquet to find, plants to pot up for swapping, some EJC holes in the tent floor to repair and some new (to Bungay) props to bring... #BBU2016

The Void - - Parent

14:52 seems like a reasonable time to talk about Bungay. Not too early in the morning.

Bit of a radical departure, but we're having an official Fight Night this year. Wednesday. With a potential extra 12 points, which Ewano has the details on.
I suppose I should fix my kite spar soon, too.

Little Paul - - Parent

It's all set to be the most juggly BBU ever! I'm dead excited :)

charlieh - - Parent

It all reminds me of the year the WJF sent all those flyers and we all did weights and trained our patterns and everything.

Little Paul - - Parent

hahahaha!

I found my copy of that flyer (signed by Jason Garfield!) the other day. It did raise a smile.

Ewano - - Parent

Well it's all official and everything..

While at the BJC Luke agreed to an extra 12 points for the event, but you know how he backtracks later on when he realises he's agreed to something I suggested. Turns out that this extra 12 points would mean he needs to rewrite the Fight Night website - or some such excuse. I'm sure though that he'll be along some time soon to explain how he plans to honour the terms he agreed with us..

On a side note, we should probably have a look at some more of the rules to see how we can subvert his system some more move to a 350/500 tournament in the future..

lukeburrage - - Parent

I just looked at the code and data and stuff and it seems like giving the winner 12 extra points is quite easy. What will take more work is for the tournament to be listed as a "262 level tournament" in other places on the website, either in advance or afterwards. And I'm not going to do that extra work.

I've added a note to the Bungay 2016 page about the extra points and prize on offer: http://fightnightcombat.com/tournament-Bungay-2016.html

(And adding that note didn't work the first time, and I found the error that caused a bug I first noticed months ago but didn't know where it came from, so thanks I guess.)

The Void - - Parent

Cheers Luke.

Monte - - Parent

Fight night? I'm appalled. This goes against the whole love and peace, non-competitive hippy ethos with which BBU was originally conceived.
In other news, Mike and I have plans and materials to make the biggest trebuchet ever seen at a juggling convention. Hopefully this one will be able to completely destroy Ewans tent from my position at the far corner of the buttercup meadow. Hope your ballista plans are well advanced Geordy boy.

Monte - - Parent

Also farmer Paul has been sorting through Sue's extensive book collection and I now have a stack of quiz books as tall as LP.

The Void - - Parent

You running 15-to-1 again, then?

Monte - - Parent

I was thinking of mastermind this year but no reason we can't have a different one each day. Anyone who suggests deal or no deal will quickly become my new trebuchet target though.

Monte - - Parent

We could do "pointless jugglers" that would be pretty inclusive.

Little Paul - - Parent

You mean you've got 3 quiz books?

Richard Loxley - - Parent

How about we make fight night into a banoffee pie fight instead of club juggling? That'd be more in the Bungay spirit :-)

Monte - - Parent

Or sort things out like real men/women over a game of Texas hold 'em.

Ewano - - Parent

New tent this year, you'll have to find me first..

Monte - - Parent

Yeah like you're going to pitch it in a different place.

lukeburrage - - Parent

I will be at Bungay this year! It might have something to do with it taking a week for a new passport application and pickup, and needing somewhere to stay in the UK for a week.

charlieh - - Parent

[makes note to pack enough butter]

Little Paul - - Parent

wrong burrage...

but I'll make a note to pack plenty of gin and a slightly-too-small juggling ring just incase we can "collect the set"

I'm really looking forward to Bungay this year, even though we're having to leave early on the Saturday.

lukeburrage - - Parent

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

charlieh - - Parent

That's probably best.

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Do not search teh Googles newsgroups for 'buttered Burrage'.

Monte - - Parent

The sheep vacated the field two weeks ago and the grass is growing like mad.
The buttercup forecast is very good as we have not had the shortage of rain that we have had in the last few years and the current heatwave could make it a vintage year. Daisies and dandelions are in abundance too.
Morning chorus has been extremely loud and starts around 5am at the moment.
Night time owl noise is high as the Tawny's argue over territory.
Barn owls have been hunting during the day to feed their new offspring. I damn near killed one last week as it flew right in front of me on the road up to the farm. I had to emergency brake and missed it by under a foot (30cm).

The Void - - Parent

What's the poker forecast? (Anyone prodded Hairy lately?)

Monte - - Parent

Poker forecast is very high. Hairy is definitely coming and hasn't played for over a year so is itching for a game. Both Dan the hats are coming too. Not sure what happens when they are both in the same room. Do they cancel each other out? Is it like hatter and anti-hatter?

The Void - - Parent

We had 3 of them at Bristol one year! I think Original has been Dan The Hatless for some years now, so we're probably all safe.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

And is the correct plural "Dan the Hats" or "Dans the Hat"?

Little Paul - - Parent

Interesting... Given that one of them is known for a plural number of hats perhaps we should go with "dans the hats" just to be on the safe side?

charlieh - - Parent

There *is* a proper nomenclature you know. Dan The Original Hat (because he always wore a hat, nothing to do with juggling IIRC). T'other is Dan the Exeter Hat (because that's where he hails from). Any other Dan the Hats will have to wait their turn.

Glad to hear they're both coming, as is Hairy! I watched this rather wonderful video again today and enjoyed it so much I had to spaff it all over Faceberk.

https://youtu.be/UZIbm4stHwc

bad1dobby - - Parent

Terrific vid - I got a great vicarious experience of this fabled gathering.

Love the music choice - it lifts the (already excellent) visuals to a level that's simply majestic. Brian Wilson, continuing to make wonderful music.

lukeburrage - - Parent

I am coming to the UK to get a new passport, but I have a problem. I need a countersigning person who lives in the UK, is in the UK, has a passport, has known me for 2 years, is not related to me and either "work in (or be retired from) a recognised profession" or is "a person of good standing in their community".

But as I've lived in Germany for 10 years, most people I know in the UK are jugglers and other performer types. Turns out "Professional Juggler" isn't on the list of "Accepted occupations for countersignatories": https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applications/accepted-occupations-for-countersignatories

I'm looking elsewhere, but is anyone going to be at Bungay on the first Monday who could help me out? All you need to do is sign the back of a photo and a form. And you have to know your passport number. Let me know if you can be my standby! Thanks!

barnesy - - Parent

When I registered as an overseas voter, I had to find a witness to sign my form. That person had to be another British citizen, but one who was not resident in the UK. But not someone of particular standing. So you'd have done, but the masses of impressive sounding people who could have done it for me at the Lestival I happened to go to around that time were the useless type of British citizen who actually lived in Britain!

^Tom_ - - Parent

That sounds bizarre. I think I needed my NI number, and they wanted the address at which I was last on the electoral role. I didn't think that I had to do much more than that.

barnesy - - Parent

I think perhaps it's different now. I've managed to find something like the instructions I had at the time on this (clearly not official) page: http://findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/voting_and_elections/8676.html but not from an official source.

lukeburrage - - Parent

I just changed my address and made sure I was registered to vote abroad, and I only needed my NI number. No countersignature needed this time.

Little Paul - - Parent

Looking at that list of occupations, I think there are candidates for:

- accountant (I know fak used to do that sort of thing, but I don't know how qualified she was or needs to be)
- chairman/director of limited company - I think Charlie can tick that box
- director/manager/personnel officer of a VAT-registered company - Charlie can definitely tick that box
- engineer - with professional qualifications - I'd be surprised if we can't scrounge up one of those
- manager/personnel officer of a limited company - Charlie again?
- teacher, lecturer - Will Dee be around on the Monday? Most of the teachers who turn up tend to be second-weekenders so wouldn't be any use to you

Your countersignatory can’t:

- work for HM Passport Office
- be a doctor, unless they state that they know you well (eg good friend) and that they recognise you easily from your photo


The medical professionals who tend to turn up (Dr Alice, Helen S etc) could certainly state they know you well.

Little Paul - - Parent

Mentioning Dee reminded me that I got all confused when I heard her on the "more or less" podcast the other week, as I don't think I've ever heard her full name before.

Looking at the show notes, I think http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p03rw8l6.mp3
is the episode I spotted her on

Dee - - Parent

I am on the list of approved professions, but can't make Bungay this year; although for the first time in ages it's not because I have student vivas during the middle of it. This time, it's because I'm under a super-tight deadline to get all of the marks back in (I'm module leader for the project, so have to do all the admin) before I fly to the US for a family wedding [flying out during Bungay week].

I enjoyed my trip into BBC Bristol to do the recording - the calculations involved weren't difficult, but asking the right question and inserting the appropriate terms and conditions on the calculations was difficult. One of my aunts didn't recognise my voice [I consider that to be what I'm going to call my "Radio 4" voice, a lot slower than my usual way of speaking]. I was recruited to do that as part of my involvement in the Royal Statistical Society [and you were right with the show - my piece was on the chance of receiving the equivalent of a jury summons in Scotland]

mike.armstrong - - Parent

I've been meaning to go back and listen to this again as, on first listen, I got the impression that they used your name surprisingly often for a short article.
Maybe it's just because your full name (with the honorific) sounds incongruous to me. Or maybe they're proud of pronouncing it correctly and wanted to make the most of it! If only we knew someone with the skills to develop some kind of index of radio article naming frequency ;o)

david - - Parent

I enjoyed your section and I bookmarked the show. I like numbers and the only thing I know close to this in the US is fivethirtyeight.com I have also bookmarked Significance magazine.

Dee - - Parent

Thanks, in case anyone is interested in what was the "behind the scenes", I've written about it in my blog.

Significance magazine is a good shout for those interested in applications of statistics [for those of you who are maths teachers in the UK or Ireland, you can get a free e-Teacher membership of the Royal Statistical Society, which happens to included free subscription to Significance magazine though an app - this gives more articles than only those that appear on the statslife.org.uk website]

There is currently a series called "ask a statistician" series in Significance, so if anyone has any curious question that may spark something similar to my calculations needed for the question about jury duty. An example of a recent question is here: https://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sciences/2735-ask-a-statistician-population

I'm sure that over the course of Bungay you may be able to come up with some interesting questions!

lukeburrage - - Parent

I went through the same process in 2007 and went to the Bristol convention while waiting the week for my passport to be delivered. Richard Loxley was a director of a limited company at the time and did it for me then. :)

charlieh - - Parent

I'm an engineer as well but never joined the IEEE or anything so don't have 'professional qualifications' whatever that means. Happy to sign Luke!

mike.armstrong - - Parent

My job is on that list, and I'll be there on the first Monday...

lukeburrage - - Parent

Great! Between you and others on LP's list, I'm sure we can make it work. As long as you have your passport number we can do it all on Monday afternoon/evening.

Ewano - - Parent

The question of course now becomes - "What's it worth to ya?"...

Little Paul - - Parent

Is Mikey willing to take payment in the form of complimentary fight night points?

mike.armstrong - - Parent

Maybe I'll just take the 12 Bungay-bonus points ;o)

lukeburrage - - Parent

I was going to suggest that if one point = one slice of banoffee pie, that would be way more valuable to most people!

The Void - - Parent

Under a week to go! If there was any doubt before, I think we can definitely start talking about Bungay now.

Um... Still haven"t fixed my kite from 2 years ago. Or was it 3? Will have to dig out my boomerang at least. Reckon I'll bring my clubs this year too.

Little Paul - - Parent

I haven't managed to get around to editing the video I shot last year - how long can I get away with that and still call it a BBU 2015 video?

The Void - - Parent

About 4 days.

Little Paul - - Parent

* moves video files into a folder marked "never gonna happen" *

mike.armstrong - - Parent

I'm definitely bringing my rola bola.
After a brief play on one at the BJC I was inspired to dig mine out of the loft to take to Appleby on Saturday. And I went from never-tried-the-pipe-parallel-to-the-board to over-a-minute-of-double-rollers in an afternoon. I haven't been this excited about a learning curve for years!
I only fell in an undignified heap once, and I didn't hurt myself too badly :o)

Little Paul - - Parent

Just in case anyone thinks it might be useful, I thought I'd just mention that there's a PDF available of an A3 OS map, roughly centred on Hulver Farm available from here: http://paulseward.com/downloads/BBU_Map.pdf

I made it for planning some new routes for me to run as I find that sort of thing easier to do on paper than I do on a screen, especially given how sketchy some of the online map data is for the area.

This desire for mapping the area was prompted by me mapping the run I've been doing the last couple of years which I thought was "just shy of 10Km" and found it's more like "just shy of 9Km" and needing to find an extra Km of footpaths :)

The Void - - Parent

403 Forbidden.

Little Paul - - Parent

Try now :)

The Void - - Parent

Ah, that one. Yep, works now.

The Void - - Parent

Packed. In no time I'll be nailing carpet, gee, yippee!

 

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