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Today Milton Keynes Juggling Club sometimes known as Jugglers Anonymous and/or the juggley love club is 25 years old!
Which means I've spent half my life going to this club.
I'm curious to know how many clubs out there are older? I know there will be a few in the UK but elsewhere?
"My" club is younger, but it's 20 years this year. (Fritidsjonglörerna, Stockholm.) Maybe I should try to find out the date so we can celebrate. :)
The 25th annual Waterloo Festival happened earlier this year, so I think it's safe to say it's older. No idea how much older, though.
Congratulations on both feats!
#Altern8 in Bristol is older by a few years. http://www.jugglingedge.com/forum.php?ThreadID=2914&SmallID=21647#Small21647
Flying Teapot's the Uni of Sheffield circus society celebrated 30 years this year!
York Jugglers is also 25 years old this year (October to be more precise) but we don't have any members who have been going for all 25 years.
I first went to Cambridge Community Circus (then named Patchwork Circus) in 1992 so it's at least 25 years old, and rumor has it that there was a juggling club run by some of the same people in the late 80s.
Turns out TWJC will be 25 later this month!
The top 10 oldest active UK clubs with a known established date in the Edge database:
Nottingham Juggling Club (1980)
Flying Teapots (1985)
Glasgow Juggling Club (1990)
Imperial College Juggling Society (1990)
Camcircus, Milton Keynes, Tunbridge Wells, York Jugglers (1992)
Interesting because the BJC is 30 years old. I expected there to be more than 4 clubs (Balls up in Portsmouth was established in 1987 but is alas no more) to be active at the time to provide an audience to make a national event viable. I'm sure there were clubs that predate internet records. Or is it that annual juggling events produce local juggling clubs rather than the other way around?
The oldest club we have on record is Santelli, NL which has allegedly been going since 1962.
Hastings Juggling Club started in 1990. Russell Watson was the original motivator. Still going but monthly. It's been responsible for much - marriages, break ups, new careers, making people happy, an escape from the world we live in and more, just like the other juggling clubs around the world I'm sure.
Where would we be without a juggling club?
We were back tonight, with 13, including two newbies. I introduced one of them to the joys of 3-count passing. I disapprove of the nouning of the word "thin" spreading to the world of biscuits, although they were quite nice, but I'd've preferred dark chocolate. And as for Anton veering wildly from Renegade 105s to PX3s, welll.... Tsk!
Monday night #Altern8 #Bristol #juggling club. pic.twitter.com/isuHv9JzkW
— The Void (@TheVoidTLMB) June 5, 2017
#Altern8 will be closed next week: April 10th, as most of us will be at #BJC2017. Back as usual on the 17th.
Currently 12 of us tonight, posh biscuits are chocolates again. I got 43 catches of 5 clubs. Jon's contemplating mirrorising his headbounce ball. Angie's leg hooping hilariously.
"Jon's contemplating mirrorising his headbounce ball"
Interesting idea. Seems like it might be within the realms of possibility, given the flexible mirror materials that are available nowadays.
I can't see how you would achieve the genuine faceted look though - seems to me any solution is going to have to fully adhere to the curvature of the ball or you're going to have tiles spraying everywhere on each bounce.
14 tonight. Henna from Tampere was in town, and is a recent kendama convert, so I gave her a few tips, and she hit her first Around The Village. She & Gale also played with hoops. Anton, Rupert & me all had a bash at 5 clubs, Anton including singles. Jon and Tarim were having a crack at 996, before Jon later went on to theorise that you could name & recognise a period-3 3 club siteswap from a still photo. He convinced no-one. Richard, Ian, Sam & Hazel passed a Z-feed. Some kururin were fiddled with, including in the pub afterwards.
"Jon later went on to theorise that you could name & recognise a period-3 3 club siteswap from a still photo. He convinced no-one."
I'm immediately suspicious, but also immediately intrigued.
Ok, let me just clarify! I didn't say it was possible, I was suspecting that it might be if you give certain limitations. For example, if you limit a site swap to only period 3, then at any point in the site swap there are only very limited outcomes of what the pattern could be, right? Who knows? Who cares?! Obviously, this only applies if the juggler is playing fair rules and not doing a 3 club cascade and calling it 522 or any nonsense like that.
Also Little Paul, I've heard that you may be selling my Delphins that I sold to you a while ago. If so, I'd love to buy them!
I tried to email you via the info address on your website, but I got a bounce message saying your email address doesn't exist. You might want to fix that I guess.
Anyway, what I said was pretty much:
Sorry, I've been a terrible procrastinator recently, hence the lack of reply to you about Delphins!
I am considering selling my Delphins and finally going albatross (after probably 20 years of thinking I should do that!)
Obviously as it's now been 10 years since you sold them to me they're not quite in the condition they were when I bought them (although as I barely juggle any more, they're not exactly beaten up)
I'll check, but I'm pretty sure I've got all 7 still. If you're around for Monday night juggling next week, I could bring them along then?
Price would be whatever you would want to give me for them.
The error is fixed on my website email now, so thanks for bringing that up!
Realistically I won't be at the Monday night juggling club until the 5th June. Email me on email@example.com and we can arrange for me to pick them up.
We had 9 at #Altern8 on Monday. (Get well soon, Richard.) Newbie Rosie was working on her 3 ball half showers both ways, and 4 balls, and also asked us how long the club had been going. We don't know exactly, but guessed about 25 years. Other new arrivals to the club were Anton & Angie, fresh to the area. Angie & Annette tried a dual booty-hoop which was more hilarious than successful. Anton and I had a little "remember when we both used to be able to do 5 clubs?" session. (41 catches, go me. Not sure what Anton got.) fak, Ian & Hazel passed clubs, and Hazel tried throwing tomahawks in passing for the first time, at Annette. (No-one was injured.) Biscuit quality: medium.
The juggling edge listing for Altern8 says it was established on 1 June 1994, so you maybe have another 2 1/2 years to meet your quarter century.
Pretty sure it was me that entered that date. It was a guess. Hmmmm... might have to have a look in some old issues of The Catch....
First listed in The Catch in the Winter '97 edition, but that may just have been when Tarim started running it, or maybe when it first had the name Altern8. There was mention on Monday that it used to be in a different venue...
Oh, and I also remember that after I'd moved to Bristol (probably winter 1997) Tarim announced a 're-launch' of the club after the summer break (the club used to close down over the summer due to lack of interest).
I was lead to believe that previously the club was quite sparse, with maybe 3-6 people attending. But Tarim did a good job of publicity, so about a dozen people (myself included, and quite a few students) turned up on the re-launch night. That made a great 'buzz' and I think cemented the 'social' aspect of the club. Most of us carried on coming every week after that as it was so special. We also socialised outside the club a lot, and I made some great friends.
But I'm not sure if that re-launch was when Tarim took over, or whether he was already running it prior to that point.
My memory for dates of events around that time is somewhat hazy, but I believe Altern8 was established up when the Freaks Unlimited workshop at the Elmgrove Centre in Redland lost their venue.
I have a feeling that the name of the club has its roots in it being an alternative to the freaks workshop - but I can't confidently claim that as fact.
Not sure what prompted the loss of venue - I think the Elmgrove Centre either had a refit, or started becoming more of a sports centre than a community centre. I only went to the Freaks workshop 3 or 4 times. If you think parking is bad where Altern8 is, you haven't tried parking near the Elmgrove Centre - which was a nightmare even in 1994 (and is pretty much impossible now)
The Freaks workshop is last mentioned in The Catch in 1994 - which would tie up with the foundation date mentioned above.
Tarim will have the full story though, as he was more directly involved.
Gutted that I'm missing so many sessions. My back is getting a lot better, and not stopping me do much now, except that sitting in a car is still very painful, making travel very difficult!
But Angie and Anton stopped off for a cuppa on their way to the club to give me some company :-)
The club was being run by Tarim in 1997 when I moved to Bristol. But it was run by Paul and Kelly from Freaks before Tarim ran it (I used to go to the sister Freaks unicycle hockey club for a year or two before I moved to Bristol).
I believe the Altern8 name change happened when Tarim took over (Altern8 was Tarim's domain name). But I think the spirit of the club remained from the Freaks days.
So the change to Altern8 probably happened in the mid-1990s. I don't know when Freaks started. Ian might remember more as I believe he previously lived in Bristol before moving to Liverpool, and went to the Freaks club (in a different venue) back then.
Ah, well in that case, there was a Monday night workshop run by Freaks advertised in the 1st issue of The Catch (Sep-Nov 92), in the Elmgrove Centre on Redland Road. If that's the one, then were at least in the 25th year. But I think Ian said it used to be in St Werburgh's: perhaps that was between Redland Rd and the current address...?
Paul and Kellie ran the Freaks Juggling Club at the Elmgrove Centre in Redland Road and later moved it to the Horfield United Reform Church. They also ran a unicycle hockey night and team. When they moved out of Bristol, Tarim took on the juggling club and renamed it Altern8 - as Paul and Kellie were still running the Freak's Juggling Business (still got some of their fire torches). Since then, the club has also been run by Chocolate Jon and Ian but it's always felt like the same club. It's occasionally been in the other hall and once or twice in the church itself. There have always been biscuits - though not the same ones.
I have a very vague recollection of a club briefly running in St Werburghs Community Centre (or was that a story-telling club?) but that wouldn't have been connected either way. Fool Time (now Circomedia) started in St Pauls but I don't think they had a drop in juggling club.
I can't remember any dates though. It's possible Freaks at the Elmgrove started in the late 80s - I'll see if Kellie can remember.
Nice one Tarim. I have a feeling the Freaks workshop at the very wonderful Elmgrove Centre started late '90 or '91 because I remember going there, and I didn't arrive in Bristol until Sept. '90. I suspect it didn't start up until around the time Freaks moved out of their Picton Street premises. But of course Kellie would know far better than me.
St. Werburgh's Community Centre got used a lot as a practice and rehearsal space by Fool Timers but I can't recall any kind of regular juggling club there. As you well know there were quite a few juggling clubs to choose from at that time anyway. And I'm pretty sure Fool Time itself never hosted a juggling club during my time there, because the space was pretty much booked solid by courses, classes, and people using the specialist equipment there. But there was for a while the Friday evening kids' sessions which would've been the closest thing to a regular juggling club.
Cheers for the memories, Tarim, Richard, & Cedric. I've changed the start date of the club to "1990", until any more definite info comes along.
Kellie says she's fairly sure that Freaks' Juggling Club opened at the Elmgrove Centre in 1989 around the time Freaks' Juggling Shop moved from Picton Street to Perry Road (where the famous tile pattern can still be seen) as she can remember cycling up the steep hill to get to the Elmgrove Centre. If you know St Michael's Hill - you know you wouldn't forget cycling up it.
The club moved to Horfield Church in 1994. The shop moved to Park Street in 1993 where it ran until 1996 and it would have been not long after that I took over running the club. The name Altern8 came from "Alternates" - a (little used) term for 3-count.
Thanks Tarim and Kellie. I've changed the start date to 1989. So, we're 28ish then.
I've just dug out my old diary (sadly I only started keeping my calendar on the computer from 17 June 1995, so I'll have to go through old papers to find anything earlier).
According to that I was definitely going to the Freaks Thursday unicycle hockey sessions in the Horfield Hall by December 1995, because I've got the fancy dress unicycle hockey session marked down on 14 December 1995.
I dressed up in my wizard cape, which was very dangerous when going backwards as it got trapped under the wheel. I remember that anyone who turned up without a costume was forced to wear clothing out of the boxes of jumble sale items at the back of the stage. There were a lot of people wearing middle-aged lady's dresses that night.
We've resurrected the fancy dress tradition when Freaks unicycle hockey team reformed as the Severn Wheelers. We now do a fancy dress hockey game every time Halloween falls on a Wednesday. So we've done them in 2007 and 2012, and will hold the next one in 2018 :-)
We also had a Bristol unicycle hockey tournament on Sunday 17 March 1996. I believe that was the one at the Whitchurch sports centre, because I remember I had been there before the BJC at the same venue in 1997. By the time of that tournament I had been upgraded to the Freaks A-team, so I must have been playing with the Freaks for a while. I think that tournament was the one where Ali fell into a 'wall', which turned out to be a door, making her disappear off the pitch, complete with unicycle and stick, with the door closing automatically behind her. We were all left wondering where she'd disappeared to.
Sadly I can't find mention of the Altern8 launch night in the diary. However I have an entry for a party at Laura's (one of the Altern8 jugglers) on 29 November 1997, and the same day a Portishead gig in Bath (which I attended with some of the Altern8 jugglers). So the club was definitely running by then. I moved to Bristol in June 1997, and my memory says that the relaunch was after that summer.
Interestingly, I do have an entry for juggling on a Wednesday (19 November 1997). From memory Rod Laver used to run an evening juggling club at Circomedia in Kingswood on a Wednesday night, so I'm guessing that was one of those sessions?
Good to hear a report on the biscuit quality. My shoulder was (still) bothering me enough that I didn't want to go an aggravate it. Sorry that I missed greeting some fresh blood!
I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place, but I think I used to go to Altern8 in the early 90s, '91 maybe. But you should ask Tarim, I have a feeling it might've been him that started it. Or maybe even ask Pippa Tee.
Back up to the dizzying heights of double figures this week. All the way up to eleven, in fact. Rob continued his fight with 7 clubs. Rupert, Jon, James and I were all having bashes at 5 - I got 2 runs of 50+ catches, one of them clean! It's almost as if practise makes a diffe.... Nah, can't be true. Richard's back had recovered enough for him to show up and make sure that neither the tea nor the biscuits weren't neglected. Biscuit report: good range but slightly disappointed that the "double chocolate" digestives were milk choc, not plain. Henry, Ian, Hazel and fak all did some passing, I'm not sure if Dee did too. Jon was jumpy, in a good way, but not quite skippy enough. However, he did fulfill his crisps obligation at the pub afterwards. And revealed his desire to go to prison for a year.
A round dozen tonight. Including new-to-Bristol-but-returning-to-juggling-after-10-years Marcus. Didn't seem to stop him getting his 7 ball pattern up. Richard's back's fixed enough for light passing. Local convention venues were pondered.
Ten people tonight. Plus a baby. Fak did some snakeboarding, and 4 clubs. Rupert and I both worked on 5 clubs. Marcus & I did some old school 4-count passing. Jon got two skips with a head bounce. Richard brought a birthday biscuit box. *click*
13 this week, boosted by freshly-back-from-The-Canaries Sam. Pistachios in the biscuits.
Last week: 13. Posh biscuits: ginger, dark chocolate.
#Altern8 #Bristol #juggling club. #Mondays #WheresRobin? pic.twitter.com/H8yMRPd9NS
— The Void (@TheVoidTLMB) March 6, 2017
This week: 14, with a disappearing Rupert, but the return of the Robin. Posh biscuits: Salted caramel choccy thing.
Passing, 5 clubs, leg hooping, combination tricks, 7 balls and siteswaps.
Monday night #juggling at #Bristol #Altern8 club. @RobinGunney pic.twitter.com/jPRzOuSRaw
— The Void (@TheVoidTLMB) March 13, 2017
A round dozen tonight. The best biscuits were back. Anton, Rupert & I mucked about with overheads, and I ended up revisiting 4 club pistons on singles. (It's been a while.)
5 ball endurance at #Altern8 Monday night #juggling club. #Bristol pic.twitter.com/YEnnRXpbg7
— The Void (@TheVoidTLMB) March 20, 2017
10 again. Posh biscuits: oatmeal and treacle. Sounds like a punnishment to me.
I got 41 of 5c again, and did some Fast Hand Spikes.
Passing, and some fun with ohshits.
Yup, I had one of the treacle biscuits. Just about ok, but needed dunking in my tea to improve the texture.
I still maintain that a biscuit needs chocolate. Jammie Dodgers are the honourable exception.
"Posh biscuits: oatmeal and treacle. Sounds like a punnishment to me."
Wouldn't that be a flapjack? Sounds delicious, anyway.
How's it going?
I am new here and stuff, I am an Irish juggler currently living in Bristol. I am currently working on three balls in one hand with both hands, so I guess 6 balls but I want to make it interesting. I am not sure what the next convention I will attend is but I will be at the EJC in Lublin. If you want to know more feel free to ask and stuff.
I think they were quite pleasant, so would happily see them again.
They might be improved with the addition of some chocolate, which would also help with the crumbling issue.
I didn't know him very well, just on nodding terms really. He once or twice came to #Altern8. Crap way to go. Be careful out there, folks.
I just picked that up on the interwebs a few minutes ago. Terrible news, and one wonders if there is more to it than meets the eye.
I hung out with Ashton a bit years ago at Bristol, then watched him grow and get fit as he attended Circomedia. He was perhaps the kind of character of whom one might not be so surprised by such a happenstance, but that really, really sucks as a bad end to a short life, both for him and his poor family.
From what I've heard, it sounds accidental. Possibly a misjudged fire breathe that went wrong (although that appears to be pure conjecture, take it with a pinch of the proverbial)
It's a nasty way to go, and a terrible thing for his friends and family to be dealing with.
Play safe out there people...
Someone posted a different story on Facebook that I don't want to repeat yet because I find it hard to believe.
Did he perform in BYJOTY one year? I remember the name but not the face.
He performed in BYJotY in 2011 in Nottingham. He seemed like a nice chap from the interaction I had with him during that period.
I also heard a different story on Facebook. From the evidence I've read in the news it seems consistent, but I'm not going to perpetuate rumour. I'm just shocked and sad right now.
Just saw Jon Udry do a Scilly Gallop at tonight's #Altern8. It's a really nice 423 club variation
#Altern8 is free next week, Feb 8th, so come along for free tea and bi^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H juggling. Definitely juggling.
I almost made it to #Altern8 last night. I got within a handful of meters away at my closest point.
I was in the area anyway (on my way home from ikea) but I couldn't find any parking within a reasonable distance so gave up and drove home.
I'm sure you missed me terribly...
I usually park slightly down the hill on the main road (Muller Road). I've never had to park more than about two minutes walk away.
Parking near the hall on Downend Road has got much harder in the last couple of years (since they painted loads of double yellow lines), but Muller Road is still pretty reasonable.
Very healthy turnout last night, and I think I counted about a dozen people down the pub too :-)
The nearest spot I saw was a looong way down muller rd (by the old bus station) and I just couldn't be bothered walking up the hill from there. Had I been about 20 minutes earlier I could probably have parked in the car park!
Oh well, I polished off the lemon drizzle cake when I got home, that made up for it.
I've been unwell, but I think of altern8 every Monday evening :)
Hope I'll be back to see you all soon.
I am currently a snot factory (nice image I know), so won't be at #altern8 as planned this evening.
Hope everyone there has a grand Christmas and I'll see you all in 2016 :)
Get well soon.
Tonight we had about 10. Lizzie was wisely refusing to go along with Henry's "open your eyes and catch it when I say 'now'" passing advice. Rob was playing with his rugby balls in preparation for a gig. I played with a paper kendama. Hazel brought posh biscuits. Richard reused some gold paper to enposhify some unposh ones. Sam strolled in for his severalmonthly visit from the Canaries. Henry also dragged along a couple of Russian friends. We were shockingly undersupplied with props, so I got them having a go at kendama. Ivan wandered off to play with a club, and bashed himself in the cheek with it.
We are closed next week, open again from Jan 4th as usual.
Yes, it was a very nice evening, unexpectedly busy with people who aren't usually there - a very nice pre-Christmas surprise :-)
We had four vaguely competent passers there, and was encouraged by Tarim to give the Urban Terror Feed another try. Last time was at least ten years ago, when it was preceded by my statements "how hard can it be?" and "it's only ultimates isn't it?" Promptly followed by that expression of terror that characterises its name :-)
So of course I again went through the ritual incantations of "how hard can it be?" and "it's only ultimates isn't it?" before starting. But this time I got at least 7 passes into it, which was at least a 100% improvement on last time :-)
Suburban terror* feed is a much easier way to build up to it.
*there possibly exist multiple patterns by this name, but the one I mean is where A does BBCC, B does AAss, C does ssAA.
Suburban terror feed traditionally, at least in my circles, means one count feeding, with one feedee doing pass pass self, one doing three count, with 3 clubs each.
It's possible to add a club, and have 7 one count feeding the same patterns, but with all passes on 3.5p.
And for the ambitious, you can do 9 club one count feeding 8 club pps and 7 club 3 count.
You add clubs in the same way to Tom's version, or indeed for the passer passing one count to the feedees in any preagreed order.
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