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Greg Mills -

Hey ya’ll!

I’m currently trying to get 5 balls and working on my club double flips. My last practice was Monday evening at the Camp Juggle Monster Lake event in Concord, NC. This Sunday I’ll be at the regular meeting of the Lake Norman Jugglers. My next festival will the Groundhog Day festival in Atlanta.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Welcome! It feels like yesterday when I was attending regular meetings, going to festivals and working on my 5b and 3c doubles... Have fun!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Howdy!

Cedric Lackpot -

Shaker cups - how it should be done.

https://gfycat.com/NearEnergeticCowrie

Found over at /r/flippyshit along with all manner of other eye-boggling athletic stuff.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Goodness! .. doesn't that violate gravity?

Little Paul - - Parent

By “how it should be done” do you mean as a gif with no sound?

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

SHAKER. CUPS. FTW. MOFO!!

Btw, I don't suppose you saw the splendid retro wrestling clip from /r/flippyshit? It's worth it just for the potty sound effects :-

https://youtu.be/cenS5gpiHPo

So we know that those wrestling rings are somewhat padded, but that 4m jump into a 1.5 front flip landing what is essentially a crash dive (old trampolining term, dunno what it would be in other disciplines) is fucking mental. Look for it at 0:39.

It's Him -

So tomorrow is MKJC8. It looks like it might be fairly miserable driving there but that it will be brightening early afternoon and dry for the rest of the day/night.

The convention starts at 10 am with workshops starting at 11 am. I'm going to be running an intermediate old school one diabolo workshop that concentrates on knots and around the arm/leg moves. Anyone who is old enough will probably remember all these tricks but hopefully someone will get something from it.

The catering from previous years (apart from last year) will be back again.

Games will be at 4 pm and as I have read that Jon Peat will not be there this year other people have a chance at the endurance events.

The show will be approximately 7 pm - 9pm and the line-up (not in order) includes:

Matthew Green,

Concrete Circus,

The Void,

Georgie Price,

Jules Cooke,

Matt Hennem,

Brook and Becky

and Matt the Devil Sticker from Corby (sorry don't currently know his surname)

The compere would like to be known as Stevie Vegas.

I hope to see as many of you as possible and as I have very few things to do during the day I also hope to actually enjoy the convention.

Nigel

#MKJC8

The Void - - Parent

I had fun yesterday. Got there probably too early, but lots of time for chatting, mooching about and drinking coffee with friends. I even played a little kendama. It was good fun being in the show (thanks for the nice comments, those who gave them), and I really enjoyed seeing Brook & Becky's act that I'd heard good things of, and meeting up with my old friend Matt Hennem, and seeing him do his wiggly thing again. :-) Mucking about with Greeny in the curtain call was top silly fun too.
I was very confused by Matt asking me which day I'd arrived on. Apparently, if you're not careful, you can misconstrue "MKJC8 - 11th November" as "MJKC, 8-11 November". LOL.
Cheers to all the MKJC crew.
http://tlmb.net/galleries/MKJC2017/

It's Him - - Parent

Glad you enjoyed it. It was good to see your act again. When I go through my photos tomorrow I hope I will have got some of the faces you pulled in the show. it's a shame that we didn't have Jon Peat there to write a review I wonder if anyone else will do it.

Nigel

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

eJuggle happily posts fest reviews from others besides Jon. Be in touch with me to contribute to eJuggle.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Void pulls faces?

It's Him - - Parent

I put 3 photos on this page to give you an idea https://www.facebook.com/events/125838554740265/ I apologise for the quality of the photos, these are cropped from slightly less poor quality photos but I wasn't really concentrating on the photography as I only really wanted one photo per act for the DVD cover. As it is I didn't get one for Concrete Circus being peripherally involved with the act.

Nigel

7b_wizard - - Parent

Thank you for taking me serious.

It's Him - - Parent

I always take everything to do with The Void seriously! :-)

Nigel

7b_wizard -

What's the longest toss-juggling endurance you ever did?

(no matter which pattern, which prop)

  1. I don't really endure anything
  2. less than a minute
  3. between 1 and 3 min
  4. between 3 and 5 min
  5. between 5 and 10 min
  6. between 10 and 30 min
  7. between 30 min and 1 h
  8. between 1 and 4 h
  9. marathon, more than 4 h


I hope to find - if many of us vote - how popular or common enduring even is (and for how long).

This is a competition thread which ran from 9th Nov 2017 to 16th Nov 2017. View results.

It's Him - - Parent

About 25 years ago I worked for a juggling stall that had a competition which was to juggle 3 x 1.5 Kg Splats as long as possible. I think the winner was about 45 minutes. Shortly after that I tried to match that time with 3 x 1 Kg Absolutes. I matched it but killed my wrists doing it and suffered from tendonitis for quite a while. I'm not sure that endurance is necessarily the way to go but it made for an interesting competition.

Nigel

Daniel Simu - - Parent

What are Splats and Absolutes? I know Absolute rings but they are definitely not 1kg :p

The Void - - Parent

Big beanbags.

Ameron Rosvall - - Parent

Sounds very painful, can kinda relate, though what you did must have been worse. I did 3 beanbags with wrist weights for 1 hour once, beanbags were just 200g each and weights were 1.5kg each. Still very exhausting.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Longest endurances have been my worst dropless joggling races

Maria - - Parent

I did my longest endurance when I had only juggled for two years. It was 20 minutes of 3 clubs cascade. I'm not planning on doing any longer endurance of any pattern.

7b_wizard - - Parent

°oupps° .. a logical inconsistency in the poll again: ..ever did? versus 1. ..don't really now..

Please read ( 1. I don't really endure anything ) as "1. I never really endured anything."!

Maria - - Parent

That is how I understood it.
I was thinking, though... If you want to find out how popular endurance is, it might also be interesting to know if people are planning/hoping to achieve longer runs in the future, and how long. I have no desire to spend a lot of time trying to get as long runs as possible any more, but I would like to be able to do patterns for, like, 5 minutes or something. But I guess that wouldn't really count as endurance, it would more be about getting the pattern really solid.

7b_wizard - - Parent

I'm not planning to do anything longer than my 3b 12 minutes. Yes, especially for important basic patterns, 5 minutes is pretty much okay for me too. Yet, with 5 min x 60 sec x ~5~6 throws/sec = ~1,500 throws, that I got near to once only with 5 balls, I still don't feel like really having ``mastered´´ the pattern, it's far from ``like walking´´. So either I'll have to get more runs over 1,000 or indeed do many more throws and minutes. But it's sooo time intensive while learning tricks and other patterns instead is much more rewarding (and hard and challenging enough and worthwhile too).

Maria - - Parent

I have not been close to 5 minutes with any other pattern than 3 objects cascade yet. Could probably do it with a basic passing pattern with the right partner (6 clubs 4-count, 2-count or 3-count). Solo patterns... maybe 423 could work.
I'm definitely not even close with 4 objects, my personal record being just a little bit over 200 catches. But that might actually be a bit of an endurance thing, I do get tired when juggling 4 clubs. Arms starting to get tired before 100 catches, and my pulse is definitely high, too.

Yeah, it's more fun to learn new tricks and patterns than spending lots of time on the ones that already kind of works.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Mine was 12+ minutes of 3b cascade.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

2360c of 5b. that would be about 10m I suppose

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

1 - 3 minutes..

Marvin - - Parent

This poll has now ended. The results are:

  1.   I don't really endure anything (0 votes)
  2.   less than a minute (0 votes)
  3.   between 1 and 3 min (1 vote)
  4.   between 3 and 5 min (1 vote)
  5.   between 5 and 10 min (4 votes)
  6.   between 10 and 30 min (8 votes)
  7.   between 30 min and 1 h (6 votes)
  8.   between 1 and 4 h (2 votes)
  9.   marathon, more than 4 h (0 votes)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Ey Marvin, I know I could easily add up the numbers myself, but would you consider posting the total amount of votes next time as well? (22 this time)
If you're interested, you could even go as far as showing the percentage of voters that voted for a particular option. (36% voted for nr6)

Marvin - - Parent

Yes, I can include the total number of votes cast. Totting up a few tiny integers for you is an excellent use of my mental capacity. Do you find percentages useful when the total votes is considerably under 100?

And no, I have never been interested in any of these polls.

Monte - - Parent

Here I am, brain the size of a planet. Count they tell me. Call that job satisfaction,'cause I don't.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

It's not so much about a percentage as it is about quickly seeing that about one third of the voters voted for number 6, which is not easy to see right now. Of course, as a statistic it is near meaningless with such few participants.

7b_wizard -

Hi everyone,
what are single things or tricks or gimmicks or moves that you only rarely - about once or twice per day or less and only one attempt or at most two or max three - take a chance on? During practise or with everyday objects.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Those tend to be tricks that I hit 90% of the time so I don't need to practice them, but they do take effort so I don't do them every other second. A scorpion kick, or an ass catch, things like that I guess.

DavidCain -

I thought that there might be a number here who would find this article interesting.
https://www.juggle.org/birds-tree-trick/
David Cain

The Void - - Parent

At least one. Thanks.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Nice read, nice watch.

Little Paul - - Parent

Damn you. Now I have to learn that.

There goes the next year of my life

It's Him - - Parent

Learn it Paul so that I don't have to!

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

Race you

It's Him - - Parent

This is actually a project I think should be fairly doable. Let us set some criteria and we can certainly make this a race. How many birds being the first criteria, 5 like David or should we go for a more tree like structure? I can see that anything behind the balance would be a bugger to hit. Are we restricting size of weapon launcher? Is there any restrictions on weaponry? I was thinking of using nerf bullets as I have a bunch and they should be easy to use and safe for an audience. Anything else?

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

In my head, I'm making the structure out of PVC plumbing pipe, because it's cheap and easy to work with (and fairly easy to break down for storage/transport)

Details I've not worked out in my head:
* What to make the birds out of - David, I like the look of yours, what are they made from?
* How many to go for - 5 seems like it might be a nice number. 3 doesn't seem like enough, 7 seems like too many, even numbers are invalid
* Size of weapon launcher "don't take the piss" - if it's long enough that the end is only 1" away from the easiest bird that's too long.

In terms of ammunition, I'm not sure. I have access to plenty of nerf darts, but in my head it should be a proper "peashooter" - but then by the same measure it appears to be terribly difficult to obtain a traditional peashooter on amazon/ebay

The nerf solution would be more visual, safer, easier to clear up etc, so is probably more practical.

All in, it looks like a much easier trick to get a handle on than that damn candle trick.

It's Him - - Parent

I am looking at 4 ltr milk bottles as a suitable substance for the birds. I did like the ones David had but wasn't sure whether he just artistic or he found something suitable. I'm not sure whether to go for a thinner, wooden construction rather than pipe. I also need to spend a lot more time on a forehead balance as I normally chin balance. I'll see what I can cobble together and where that takes us. I'm thinking either Bath or BJC next year for the results to be shown. I will definitely be at BJC but Bath is dependant on work.

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

I’m a habitual chin/nose balancer (for everything other than the golf club trick obviously) so I think the forehead thing is going to need work too.

I went to juggling tonight for some forehead balance practice, and I’m so out of shape at the moment my knees started playing up.

It did strike me though, this is the ideal time of year to start working on this trick, what with fake trees being available at reasonably low cost in all the shops at the moment...

It's Him - - Parent

Yesterday I went to B&Q and picked up a tree for £4 and some of the cups that furniture coasters sit on (4 for £2.90). I now need to mutilate the tree and do some drilling as well as make some plastic birds. On Wednesday head balance practice was 30 - 60 seconds on my best attempts (as opposed to multiple minutes on a chin balance). So this is definitely a long term project even though it seemed simple in scope.

Nigel

Little Paul - - Parent

Last nights juggling session was somewhat diverted by the arrival of a rather splendid book about the history of juggling - so I only got a small amount of practice in.

I too am struggling with the forehead balance (the whole thing is the wrong side of my glasses and out of focus) and my best is also in the 30-60s range.

Its going to take more than one session per week to dial this in.

I have a nerf blowpipe on order...

It's Him - - Parent

On Saturday at Leeds convention I let a few people have a go at shooting my practice bird off of a club using a straw launched nerf bullet. The ones with the solid balance unsurprisingly did best. Whilst the straw works it isn't an elegant solution so I will be experimenting with a better launcher soon. Practice tomorrow is going to be all forehead balance although I may work on the tree as well just to see how much difference that makes to just using a club. Fortunately I have a few days before the busy period really kicks in.

Nigel

It's Him - - Parent

Having had another play with club and bird yesterday evening, it was much easier balancing the club on the forehead with the bird's wing sticking forward. In fact it was so much easier I managed to shoot the bird off the club (but lost the balance afterwards) a couple of times. This suggests to me that the top bird should be the last one shot off. Today I plan on building my first tree and hopefully get some more birds made.

Nigel

Orinoco - - Parent

I feel the world needs to see two performers facing off on a Renegade stage trying to shoot each others' birds.

DavidCain - - Parent

Hello Gentlemen. The birds I used were just sketches of birds printed on card stock with one half of a table tennis ball taped to the bottom of each, so that they could perch on their "nests". I truly think the easiest way to do it is to get a golf umbrella, remove the nylon fabric, and use the metal arms as the branches. Print out the birds on card stock, bend them down the middle, and put them on the branches. A nerf blow gun or even cheaper alternative works just fine. If you want me to send you a word document with the bird sketch, just let me know the email address to send it to. I'm glad I've been able to resurrect such a fun and completely silly trick.
David

It's Him - - Parent

Hi David,

Can you please send me that sketch to (my name)AT its him dotcodotuk (no spaces or capitals in there)

Nigel

DavidCain - - Parent

Here's a link for anyone to get the bird sketch. I should have just done this in the first place.
http://historicaljugglingprops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Bird.jpg

Orinoco - - Parent

I'm guessing that's not to scale. What's the wingspan of your finished birds?

DavidCain - - Parent

21.5 cm

Orinoco - - Parent

Thanks. In which case printing this pdf document onto A4 should result in a suitable sized bird.

Dan the Hat -

Anyone have any info on the Dave Finnegan Jugglebug badges? I have some and want to know if anyone out there would be interested in buying them? Thanks.

The Void - - Parent

*Any* info? Well, IIRC, you could earn them by being able to perform certain tricks as described in his book The Complete Juggler. I think you had to post off for them. Can't remember if there was a fee.

Mike Moore -

Antipodism with a head stand

I'll take things I'd never seen for $400, Alex:

https://www.facebook.com/jose.hugo.102/posts/10210487010914965

(Worth the FB link. Worked on private browsing without a login)

Orinoco - - Parent

Wow, that is pretty special.

lukeburrage - - Parent

Is it wrong that I mainly notice the clothing choices?

Daniel Simu - - Parent

I train in the same space where Jose recorded this. He also has a pretty solid 4 clubs, which I think is even more insane!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Queer skill, queer onsight. Awesome!

bad1dobby - - Parent

I've seen a few examples of inverted antipodism, but if memory serves they were all in head-to-head balance.

Except for Rastelli:
https://youtu.be/mowNKg1vhl8?t=1m49s
(in case the time link doesn't embed, jump to 1:49)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

There is plenty of handstand antipodism. For example that clip Violetta kiss spinning a staff while doing a one arm on Alexander?

bad1dobby - - Parent

Yes, I totally messed up what I was trying to say - I meant head-balance antip.

You are absolutely right - lots of handstands.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Thanks for this (and the David Cain) link!

bad1dobby - - Parent

Excellent article from David Cain on the related area of inverted juggling:
https://www.juggle.org/inverted-toss-and-bounce-juggling/

David Cain, if you're reading this, the photo of Reverhos doing 5 clubs in practice has disappeared.

The Void - - Parent

More Rodolfo Reyes just popped up on JTV:
http://juggling.tv/16698

MerelW -

#ODJC2018
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Marvin -

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