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JonPeat -

Leeds Juggling Convention 2017 - Review (unbiased)

Hi All,

Please see below my recollections of the day:

https://www.juggle.org/leeds-juggling-convention-2017-review-uk/

Thank you everyone who came and made the day such a success.

Cheers, Jon

Alice - - Parent

Thank you Jon, totally unbiased, Also thanks for organising most thing this year, and again next!
We have provisionally booked the same weekend next year,Sat 17th, . As always we cannot confirm until the school exam Calendar is out, usually September, but pencil it in please
Alice

Rosie -

I'm organising an upcoming juggling event. Its called CATCH!
Its a juggling convention but its also being called a circus festival sometimes, because muggles are easily confused and put off by formal sounding titles, but there you go.

Its in Cumbria, July 23rd-27th. Sunny, warm weather is pre-ordered!

I hope people can make it to the event, it promises to be full of fun, and juggling!
Shared it on jugglinghome and jugglingrock and various other facebook places, it has a page on here too.

email catchjugglingfestival@gmail.com if you have any questions or want to help or want to perform, or anything. Or if you know me then you can just get in touch.

Who thinks they'll be coming!????

mike.armstrong - - Parent

I'll be there - looking forward to it!

JonPeat - - Parent

I heard a vicious rumour that Kris Kremo is booked for the Gala Show...

See you there!

DavidCain - - Parent

I heard a vicious rumor that David Cain has been booked to perform the Juggling History Show.

JonPeat - - Parent

No way!
I heard a vicious rumor (I checked the spelling of rumor/rumour and didn't reach a definitive conclusion...)the the juggling museum might be coming over, but I didn't hear the one about the Juggling History Show!
That is quite juicy.

Little Paul - - Parent

I heard a viscous rumour

slowly

DavidCain - - Parent

The museum is far too large to bring over and that was a mistaken rumor that got out there. We're still working out the kinks for the Juggling History Show, but I think it's going to happen.

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Sounds fun, I wish I was still in the UK then....

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Oops:

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I think you probably meant "catchjugglingfestival2018@gmail.com" :-)

Rosie - - Parent

YES! good spot! ok everyone, the *real* email is: catchjugglingfestival2018@gmail.com.....that first one was a test ;)

(curse my speedy typing and failure to double check!)

Dayle -

Hi folks,

First of all, thank you Orinoco for accepting my request to join.

I'm a New Zealander living in South Korea. I used to juggle about 20 years ago and this year (2017) decided to get back into it. Am working mainly on 3b stalls and improving my 5b cascade; my best is currently ~130 throws and catches.

Cheers,

Dayle

The Void - - Parent

Hi, welcome aboard.
Don't forget to breathe. :-)
Void

Stephen Meschke - - Parent

Forget about breathing!

Focus on the pattern.

The Void - - Parent

The two are not mutually exclusive. It's a combination trick!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Oh, I never breathe. Maybe I should try it then.

Orinoco - - Parent

You're very welcome, for the invite, to this website & back to the juggling community as a whole!

7b_wizard - - Parent

hulloh Dayle

7b_wizard -

Did you ever - as far as you're aware, of course - dream that you toss*-juggle?

    Yes:
  1. Yes. Often or sometimes and with clear memory of it.
  2. Yes, often or sometimes, but memory is dim or I forget soon or right after after waking up.
  3. Yes, once or twice. Clearly.
  4. Yes, once or twice. Dimly.

  5. Somewhat \ Maybe:
  6. Not really - only single throws and catches. Or only throws to drops. Or only slightly very shortly losing physical contact to the prop before catching it again rightaway.
  7. I think so, but I'm not sure 'cos the memory of it is dim and nebulous or mixed up.

  8. No \ Rather not:
  9. I dream of conventions or of meetings or of folks or of being in a gym or of any juggling setup or of being onstage or of having an audience or of having my props with me and in reach and getting ready, but astonishingly never do or can't manage to actually really toss and really juggle one single throw.
  10. Could have been possible, can't exclude, might have, but any corresponding memory is too dim and nebulous to really tell. Rather not.
  11. Definitely, not that I know. No memory of the kind. Nowhere near.

  12. [ other ]


*"toss" - or fly and catch a diabolo, or run a devilstick, or foot- or knee-juggle a soccer ball, headbounces, or also scarve-juggling, .. anything where you lose physical contact to your prop. And catching, or at least the intention to catch, should be included. - So, I'd like contact-juggling, contact-staff, spinning, twirling, balancing and alike to be excluded.

This is a competition thread which ran from 19th Nov 2017 to 26th Nov 2017. View results.

7b_wizard - - Parent

I'm 7. Would love to improve over night, though. Also forgot to include the choice "Constantly, it's unnerving, I wake up from it everytime I drop." lol

I can - not while dreaming, but when awake - visualize throws (and then upto where they fly until I do the next throw to focus on, which is about to their apex), but then don't know where the balls are for catching (they sort of fade or vanish in a still life from where I last pictured them), .. so, when visualizing more rounds after launch, I have to take the catches for granted (and from seeing balls at launch before my mind's eye, I go over to instead feeling my handmovement + thrust + aiming or so). [ #dream #visualize ]

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

I think I've only ever dreamt of juggling once. I dream of juggling conventions fairly often. There frequently isn't any juggling in the juggling convention dreams, but I know I'm at a juggling convention. I'll give myself a 7.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Okay. Sounds more like "maybe, rather yes" to me(?). Then maybe 3. or 4, (both definite "yes"), if you're sure, you did, or 6. if you're you're not all sure, but positively think you did, would fit better? - 7. was really more meant as an "almost, but definitely not" .. everything is ready and setup to juggle, but you don't or can't or don't know how (the emphasis is not on the surroundings-story, but just to elude on "nearly could and should've but it didn't happen"). Actually, I meant the poll to find out how many are even able to juggle while dreaming. (But, hey, whatever you think! I'm happy about everyone who finds a choice that fits him.)

7b_wizard - - Parent

It's not all clear: does "you think" in "I think I've only ever dreamt of juggling once." refer to "dreamt of juggling" or to "ever only once"? Do or do you not have a memory of indeed yourself juggling?

Scott Seltzer - - Parent

I've definitely dreamt about juggling conventions. I may have dreamt about actual juggling. I don't usually remember my dreams well nor conversations about them. I slightly remember discussing having a juggling dream that wasn't the usual so I think I may have been juggling in it. Or perhaps I actually saw juggling (as the convention dreams don't usually (or ever?) have juggling in them. It's all a bit hazy for sure. I'm a definite 7 and maybe a 4 but I won't commit to that.

Maria - - Parent

I have dreamt I was passing clubs at least twice. I don't remember details (like what pattern or passing partners) but I think I remembered a bit more right after I woke up. I believe I woke up in the middle of the pattern, not after dropping. Good dreams. :)

I'll put that as a 4.

Have definitely dreamt of juggling conventions a few times, too. At least more times than about actual juggling... As far as I can remember, of course.

Maria - - Parent

...and shortly after I wrote that answer I slept and dreamed about working out new take-out passing patterns (on paper and by walking through the moves) together with another passer that I know from conventions. I know who the other juggler was but not what pattern we were working on. No actual juggling in that dream, though.

Mike Moore - - Parent

Double yes:
First without effort, and second when I was learning to lucid dream.

(I don't bother with lucid dreaming anymore)

7b_wizard - - Parent

Awesome. Can you still recall that ´´film´´, can you remember the pattern(s) and if you juggled same that you juggle when you really juggle (awake) or better and harder pattern(s), did it feel like real juggling with you controlling, acting & reacting, or did it somehow ´´hover´´, go all by itself, with you being able to watch like your own audience, was it °-.,~°happy°~.,.-°, did you ´´upgrade´´ first step to superhuman juggler, did it impact on your real juggling or did it rather seem as a fulfilment of your real juggling, a confirmation, a validation, a corroboration burnt by and into subconsciousness as affirmation?

Mike Moore - - Parent

The first time I dreamt about juggling was the most memorable. Myself and many friends were lined up to enter jail cells (for some unknown reason, but we were all resigned to it). I was among the first group locked away, but at the time (when awake), I'd often vaguely fantasized about going to jail and juggling all day, every day. I juggled a 3b cascade while sitting on some riser (a crate?). I dropped, the ball went off my foot and rolled out of the cell to a yet-to-be restrained friend of mine. They shot me such a nasty look that it woke me up.

When I was practicing lucid dreaming, I dreamt of practicing 7b cascade (probably half a dozen times or so). I didn't find that it helped, and found that I woke less rested than usual when this happened, so I stopped. Maaaybe this helped me "feel" what it was like to run it, but I doubt it had any real benefit. I was able to slow things down, see things from a third party point of view, etc.

7b_wizard - - Parent

fantasized about going to jail and juggling all day, every day.

I - when awake - sometimes have that martial arts movie-picture ("The snake in the shadow of the Eagle" or sth) of Jackie Chan training (barehanded) in a desert in my mind's eye, or that guy with his nunchucks-like three-parts-staff practising.

Nice story!

Sobers me up a bit that it shouldn't have any practise effect as I imagined. I'd still do it, though :o) (°gee° slomo, zoom at will, third party view - sounds sooo cool!)

Jan Poolen - - Parent

Yes, fun question. I remember it vividly.
First time I dreamed of flashing 7 clubs under the low ceilling at the place where I used to take breaks while juggling at the squash courts.
Second time I dreamed doing exactly 50 catches of 9 balls and being really content about my achievment(maybe one day I will really do it, and be satisfied in real life )
Third time, I did 5 connected db97531's with balls while sitting down on a chair.
Sweet dreams

7b_wizard - - Parent

So cool! Amazing. Did you also feel the juggling in your hands or just rather like watched yourself do it?

Marvin - - Parent

This competition has now ended with 11 votes cast. The results are:

  1.   Yes. Often or sometimes and with clear memory of it. (2 votes)
  2.   Yes, often or sometimes, but memory is dim or I forget soon or right after after waking up. (0 votes)
  3.   Yes, once or twice. Clearly. (2 votes)
  4.   Yes, once or twice. Dimly. (1 vote)
  5.   Not really - only single throws and catches. Or only throws to drops. Or only slightly very shortly losing physical contact to the prop before catching it again rightaway. (1 vote)
  6.   I think so, but I'm not sure 'cos the memory of it is dim and nebulous or mixed up. (1 vote)
  7.   I dream of conventions or of meetings or of folks or of being in a gym or of any juggling setup or of being onstage or of having an audience or of having my props with me and in reach and getting ready, but astonishingly never do or can't manage to actually really toss and really juggle one single throw. (1 vote)
  8.   Could have been possible, can't exclude, might have, but any corresponding memory is too dim and nebulous to really tell. Rather not. (0 votes)
  9.   Definitely, not that I know. No memory of the kind. Nowhere near. (3 votes)
  10.   [ other ] (0 votes)

Daniel Simu - - Parent

Yeah Marvin, you did the thing!

Orinoco -

New edition of Spectacle now available.

Alice -

Leeds Convention 18/11/17
Two days to go. The donuts are ordered, the tea awaits hot water , and your cup, and the venue is ready to go.
Same venue as the last 5 years large gym hall all day with adjoining classroom for tea and coffee , evening show brought to you by the organisers of CATCH convention.
Lazy Juggler are braving The South and Oddballs the North to trade on the day. Both traders happy to accept pre orders
Magnificent raffle prizes (Thank you BJC Canterbury) , workshops all day and games with seasonal prizes on offer.
Also a combat tournament ,which you will have to ask the young people about .
Looking forward to seeing you all there.
Alice

Mïark - - Parent

Doughnuts

#LJC17

John R - - Parent

The three-dimensional manifold whose boundary is a torus is a doughnut*. The ball with a sweet filling of some kind is a donut. Or maybe the other way round.

* More than a hundred years of topology and there is still no single word for the object that is to torus as ball is to sphere. Any suggestions?

The Void - - Parent

That's quoit difficult to answer.

Little Paul - - Parent

I like the word “quoit” - it has a nice ring to it

Orinoco - - Parent

*groans*

I hoop this doesn't get out of hand.

Little Paul - - Parent

Halo Orinoco! Nice to see you in a pun thread.



Cheerio again!

Alice - - Parent

This debate was had online some years ago. I also used to use "doughnuts" but was told by an English teacher than language always changes and we update it over time according to popular usage, which is probably why we no longer talk like in Ye olde days.

Anyway thanks to everyone who came to the convention, special thanks to Oddballs and Lazy Juggler, esp Oddballs who had a 10+ hour round trip. Also to our fantastic team from Hullabaloo , especially Jon who did most things and Rosie for the excellent show.
We very much hope to do it all again next year
Alice

Colin E. - - Parent

I love the way the doughnut theme is still running. I honestly can't remember how we came up with that one or when it started. I have a feeling the thought process was little more than "we like doughnuts, let's use the juggling convention as an excuse to buy them by the trayful!"

mike.armstrong - - Parent

My memory (which may be wrong!) is that we were offered a tea urn by the Students' Union when we hired the room. That inspired us to go looking for snacks to go with the drinks. I definitely remember walking round Morrisons with Helen Fitt looking for the best value items and deciding on the doughnuts.
I found a load of paperwork from the 2001 convention the other day; we ordered 500 doughnuts and paid £45!

Alice - - Parent

200 donuts/doughnuts not only cost £20, in the 7 years I have been running the convention this is the only overhead not to go up in price.
Its no wonder we have an obesity crisis, they do taste nice though!

Colin E. - - Parent

Your memory is much better than mine! I do love the simplicity of the whole thing and the way we just made it up as we went along :-)

mike.armstrong - - Parent

...and I'm pretty confident it started in 1999. Our first one (1998) was egg themed but I think we settled on doughnuts after that

Mïark - - Parent

The Basil t-shirt was 1999 and that has a doughnut on it

and 1998 was the Leeds University Juggling Egg-stravaganza

Little Paul - - Parent

I found my basil tshirt on the weekend, and I looked at it and wished I had been able to make it :(

Joerg -

7777716

Hi, does anybody have experience with the 6 ball siteswap 7777716? Is there any video of someone performing 7777716?
I would like to improve my 7 ball cascade (personal best around 20 catches) and often 6 ball siteswaps are mentioned for this. I can run 6, 77772, and a few rounds of 777771 in both directions. However, 7777716 feels much more difficult to me than the 7 ball cascade.

Mike Moore -

Inverted sprung basic siteswaps

Not as hard as I thought they'd be! Still hardish, though, especially 531 which needs to have VERY precise timing.

IS441: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bbf35t4H5-2/?taken-by=artifaxiom

IS423: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbNu2yaHlbC/?taken-by=artifaxiom

IS531: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbS8pzLHTc6/?taken-by=artifaxiom

Thanks to Julius for showing the world that inverted sprung cascade was possible to do as a solid pattern, and to Quinn Lewis for encouraging me to work on it.

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

That is amazing Mike. Truly next level!!!

furlisht - - Parent

Super impressive, I didn't know it was possible! Great job!

York Jugglers -

We were looking at the publicity claims we could make for Chocfest 23 (20 January 2018) and wondered if we could claim it is the longest continous running annual UK one-day juggling convention

Looking at data on Juggling Edge:

Chocfest has been going every year since 1996

Cambridge started the year before, but there was a 13 year gap between the 5th Cambridge and Camvention

Leeds had a convention in 1992 but didn't have their next one till 1998 and missed out 2000, 2003, 2004 and 2009

Manchester has been going since 1999, but not in 2015 or 2016

Lestival has been going since 2008

Bath UpChuck has been going since 2009

Milton Keynes since 2010

For juggling conventions of more than one day:

BJC has been going since 1988

Crawley has been going since 1993 but missed 1998, 2012 and 2017

Bungay has been going since 1999

Play has been since 2005

Broxford has been going since 2014, but could be considered to be continuation of Bristol going from 1989 to 2013

#Chocfest

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Bungay had quite a long hiatus a few years ago didn't it?

Likewise I don't think Play has been continuous.

But Broxford is - so I'm told - very much Bristol in Oxford, and Brizzle started before the advent of human history.

The Void - - Parent

"Bungay had quite a long hiatus a few years ago didn't it?"
No. Glad we cleared that up.

York Jugglers - - Parent

You are right there was no Play in 2015 and according to Juggling Edge not in 2008, 2009 or 2010.

As Void says Bungay has been every year since its start (even through the foot & mouth outbreak of 2001)

Orinoco - - Parent

I quite enjoyed that period where everyone was practicing antipodism & ping-pong ball juggling.

charlieh - - Parent

Actually Bungay ran for 5 years from 1999-2003 and then in 2004 we held our wedding on the farm, with the convention proper returning the year after and running every year since. The wedding was pretty juggly though and at least one person turned up thinking it was the usual convention. We invited them to join us anyway.

I wouldn't rely on Void, he's not been to all the Bungays....:)

The Void - - Parent

If you look at what I actually typed, not what York Jugglers assumed I wrote, you'll find that I was correct. :-P
Can I start a campaign that MBTM actually stands for "More Bungays Than Most"?

Oh, and "General Gordon"!

charlieh - - Parent

I shall have my revenge at some point I'm sure. This (next) year I think we should do Taskmaster.

Charlie
MBTV

York Jugglers - - Parent

Sorry for my assumption (and failure to count accurately the number of Bungays)

The Void -

Peter has expressed our collective angst in song form:
http://juggling.tv/16702

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